[ORDERCHEAPVIAGRASOFTWARE]

So, he was not convicted, so he is innocent.

Yet he still gets a 6 game suspension with no pay.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5121614


WTF!
He is innocent, and gets 6 games.

Michael Vick goes to JAIL for illegal activities and gets to play football the second he steps out of jail.


The NFL is all f'ed up. They are worried about image with Ben, but not with Vick. If I was a leader in the NFL, I would say No to Vick ever playing in the NFL again!

[Feloascarlelt]

the nfl has a player policy that they sign. That policy states that if players put themselves in situations where they can bring shame or embarrassment to themselves or the nfl, they will be subject to disciplinary action.

Big, dumb, fat faced Ben roethlisberger went into a restroom where a completely inebriated 20 yr old girl had been (from reports i have read) dragged by his security detail. He goes into the bathroom and begins banging her, until he slams her head upside the toilet.. at which point he realizes what a fuct situation he has put himself in, decides he is no longer into it and quits. In the meantime, the inebriated 20 year old girl's friends try to get to the restroom, because they are worried about their friend. Unfortunately, big, dumb, fat faced Ben's bodyguards prevent them.

There is more to this story, but that right there, should be enough for you to see where the NFL was coming from in this situation. Mainly, the point that within a year, this is the 2nd time he was up on rape charges.

[Bromymbollile]

If that's how it happened he should be in jail tbh.

[Feloascarlelt]

If that's how it happened he should be in jail tbh.

unfortunately the case was mishandled from the get go. The original investigating police officer early on said "she is just a drunk bitch" and then proceeded to get big bens autograph (no joke). He has since resigned. The bartender, when asked by the girls friends said there was nothing he could do, when they told him they were being blocked by Bens guards, and they were worried about their friend. That leaves the case a he said/she said... and ben would have a cadre of top flight lawyers to wipe the floor with that small towns DA.

At least the NFL IS doing something Red_Dog. Michael Vick served time and a suspension on top plus had to forfeit ~20million dollars. Big Ben has been accused twice in the last year of rape, and, I know this might be shocking to you, but most people find rape worse then dog fighting. Maybe the law couldn't find enough evidence or willing witnesses to give Ben his due. The NFL, however, does not have such high standards of proof when it comes to a player willingly putting themselves in situations that turn out bad 99% of the time. This certainly qualifies as a player putting themselves in a situation where they will cause themselves and the NFL embarrassment/bad publicity.

[patuvammnogoo]

I smell trade...

[gSjQEEmq]

So, he was not convicted, so he is innocent.

Yet he still gets a 6 game suspension with no pay.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5121614


WTF!
He is innocent, and gets 6 games.

Michael Vick goes to JAIL for illegal activities and gets to play football the second he steps out of jail.


The NFL is all f'ed up. They are worried about image with Ben, but not with Vick. If I was a leader in the NFL, I would say No to Vick ever playing in the NFL again!

I believe Vick was suspended indefinitely once he was charged with dog fighting and then once he came back to the nfl he had to serve a 4 game suspension. If memory serves right, I believe he was able to play immediately only for the pre-season games.

As a die hard steelers fan I'm totally fine with this suspension and quite honestly I wouldn't mind if pittsburgh shipped him elsewhere! This whole thing smells! I don't care so much how the player looks, but how my team looks! Would it be dumb to get ride of him? Probably, but this guy has continuously put himself in f'ed up situations and it just looks bad for the whole steelers organization! This kind of crap is for the raiders or the ravens!!!!

[SingleMan]

WTF!
He is innocent, and gets 6 games.

I wouldn't call 2 rape accusations in 1 year "innocent". Once could be wrong place at the wrong time, but when similar things keep on happening without any charges brought up, you have to figure that he's a total ******* who happens to have very smart attorneys.

[ORDERCHEAPVIAGRASOFTWARE]

I don't mind the suspension either. It is their policy.

I just think that it is a little jacked up how they do things.

Vick should have never been able to return once he went to jail. That does NOT look good period.
Ben is innocent, and gets suspended. Vick goes to jail on top of suspension. They both still play football.

[Bromymbollile]

unfortunately the case was mishandled from the get go. The original investigating police officer early on said "she is just a drunk bitch" and then proceeded to get big bens autograph (no joke). He has since resigned. The bartender, when asked by the girls friends said there was nothing he could do, when they told him they were being blocked by Bens guards, and they were worried about their friend. That leaves the case a he said/she said... and ben would have a cadre of top flight lawyers to wipe the floor with that small towns DA.

At least the NFL IS doing something Red_Dog. Michael Vick served time and a suspension on top plus had to forfeit ~20million dollars. Big Ben has been accused twice in the last year of rape, and, I know this might be shocking to you, but most people find rape worse then dog fighting. Maybe the law couldn't find enough evidence or willing witnesses to give Ben his due. The NFL, however, does not have such high standards of proof when it comes to a player willingly putting themselves in situations that turn out bad 99% of the time. This certainly qualifies as a player putting themselves in a situation where they will cause themselves and the NFL embarrassment/bad publicity.

WOW,it's pretty sad that if you're rich and famous enough you can get away with some stuff that'd get normal people locked up for years.

If I had anything to do with it I wouldn't just trade him he'd be fired and I'd pay the legal fee's for the young woman who got raped.

[DoctorDulitlBest]

Ben is innocent, and gets suspended.

Innocent is not the same as not guilty. A jury doesn't deliver a verdict of "innocent".

[MaugleeRobins]

WOW,it's pretty sad that if you're rich and famous enough you can get away with some stuff that'd get normal people locked up for years.

If I had anything to do with it I wouldn't just trade him he'd be fired and I'd pay the legal fee's for the young woman who got raped.

Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk and only got 30 days in jail. He now plays for the Ravens.

[SpecialOFFER]

ray lewis and marvin harrison come to mind.

personally i think ben is a good guy who does stupid things. do you know how easy it is to yell rape, especially if someone already claimed it before in order to try to get lots of money? people do it to normal people everyday, so to say he is not innocent is just as subjective as saying he is. he was more then likely in the wrong spot at the wrong time with a girl who saw an opportunity.

with that said 6 games is a good deal for what happened, or at least what we have proof for. i would probably trade him for that top ten pick too and stick with leftwhich for now (who isnt too bad)

[evennyNiz]

I don't mind the suspension either. It is their policy.

I just think that it is a little jacked up how they do things.

Vick should have never been able to return once he went to jail. That does NOT look good period.
Ben is innocent, and gets suspended. Vick goes to jail on top of suspension. They both still play football.

Vick paid his dues as ordered by the court. Time served. Done.

I agree the crime should have been more severe, but he did what was ordered by the law and should be allowed to live his life, and his life is football.

For big Ben, like others have said, 6 game suspension is for participating in conduct unbecoming of a NFL player especially a 2 SB winning QB and embarrassing the NFL, which I am sure his contract states he is not to do. Not to mention he did buy an underage girl drinks, according to reports, and that is a crime.

[mQb0aVZe]

Hehehe, when my 17 year old sister visited me in Dallas (I was 24 at the time) I bought her quite a few drinks here and there. When I now think about it, I have commited quite a few crimes then...

Even if its a crime, its not even worth mentioning.

Rape on the other hand should be handled 100% correctly by all involved institutions for the sake of both parties, the victim and the accused, and its a shame how some law enforcement people do their jobs.

[Bromymbollile]

ray lewis and marvin harrison come to mind.

personally i think ben is a good guy who does stupid things. do you know how easy it is to yell rape, especially if someone already claimed it before in order to try to get lots of money? people do it to normal people everyday, so to say he is not innocent is just as subjective as saying he is. he was more then likely in the wrong spot at the wrong time with a girl who saw an opportunity.

with that said 6 games is a good deal for what happened, or at least what we have proof for. i would probably trade him for that top ten pick too and stick with leftwhich for now (who isnt too bad)

Nacho,I like you,but..*sigh*.

This whole "women cry rape because it will get them things" stuff that pops up all the time just doesn't make any sense.

Rape,sadly,has such a low conviction rate,and an even lower rate of being reported that it would be a horribly conceived plan virtually certain to fail.

Especially against someone who makes more money in a year than the person reporting the rape will likely make in their life.

It's also no stretch at all to believe that a super fueled well paid,drunken athlete might try to rape somebody.

There's a long tradition of high paid athletes and violence of all sorts being closely associated with each other.

[Intiltern]

I'm sorry, I missed the part where you have to get arrested in order to get fired from a job or get suspended from a job.

Even the police officer doing the investigation said "We can only judge what's legal and illegal, not what's moral and immoral', pretty much saying Ben's a douche.

Not only this, but this is his THIRD incident due to stupidity. First the motorcycle accident, then getting accused of rape LAST year, then getting accused of rape THIS year. That's a pattern, my friend.

Ben Roethlisberger conducted gross misconduct and he was punished appropriately for it. If you read the statements, he deserves what he got(and in my opinion he should've been suspended longer).

[SpecialOFFER]

Nacho,I like you,but..*sigh*.

This whole "women cry rape because it will get them things" stuff that pops up all the time just doesn't make any sense.

Rape,sadly,has such a low conviction rate,and an even lower rate of being reported that it would be a horribly conceived plan virtually certain to fail.

Especially against someone who makes more money in a year than the person reporting the rape will likely make in their life.

It's also no stretch at all to believe that a super fueled well paid,drunken athlete might try to rape somebody.

There's a long tradition of high paid athletes and violence of all sorts being closely associated with each other.

ok ill give you that. perhaps i have faith that ben is a good guy and wouldnt do something like that. and yes, i do get it that money, drugs, drinking, power, etc do change someone for the negative and make people do things that they would not normally do but like i said i think i just have hope that ben didnt do it. he seems like a decent guy.

also tinomen they may not cry rape to get something but maybe they decided that they made a mistake or that they changed there mind about the event?

take for instance the kobe thing, i do not like kobe at all but there is no doubt in my mind that he did not rape that girl but they had consensual sex. of course they were substantially different in evidence and the stories of what happened.
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[papadopul]

There's more to the story than the way it was portrayed by the media. I can't find the article, but one of the NFL.com writers had a detailed analysis of what went down in the club from various sources and apparently the group of gals had been following Ben from club to club and the one he targeted was wearing a sticker that said "DTF", which means "Down to ****". But at the same time I do think that Ben has some sort of a problem as well (where there's smoke, there's usually fire). As much as I hate to see Ben leave the club (if it comes to that), I can totally see where the Rooney's are coming from. They never do put up with anything that brings negativity to the team.

I do think it was wrong for Goodell to impose a suspension of 6 games though. He is so friggin' inconsistent and made an example out of someone that didn't even get charged. I would have thought that a 2-game suspension would have been appropriate (max). Unless he's sending some kind of message that he is no longer putting up with anything from any player and that future players will be dealt with heavily, but he hasn't said that and history shows how random his penalties are...



The Sixteen club: Players suspended by Goodell:

Rocky Bernard - Assault - 1 game
Michael Boley - Domestic abuse - 1 game
Fred Evans - Fight w/police - 2 games
Chris Henry - Multiple arrests - 8 games
Larry Johnson - Simple assault - 1 game
Tank Johnson - 2-month jail term - 8 games
Adam Jones - Various arrests - 16 games, 6 games
Marshawn Lynch - Weapons violation - 3 games
Ricky Manning - Felony assault - 1 game
Brandon Marshall - Various - 1 game
Bryant McKinnie - Street fight - 4 games
Rob Reynolds - Domestic disturbance - 16 games
Ben Roethlisberger - Misconduct (no charges) - 6 games
Donte' Stallworth - DUI-vehicular homicide - 16 games
Fabian Washington - Domestic violence - 2 games
Michael Vick - Dogfighting - 2 games

[JimmyHas]

Ben shouldve listened to Terry Bradshaw, he warned him about motorcycles and we saw how that happened and he warned him about clubs and we saw how that turned out. Ben is a dumbass plain and simple who has gotten lucky too many times. Sooner or later he will do something stupid and get himself killed or in jail. The commissioner did everything right and is doing a much better job at discipline than the previous commissioner did. as for the Michael Vick comparison, Vick violated federal law, was charged and found guilty and served time plus the four game suspension already mentioned. He served his time. Ben is lucky to only get 6 games which of course the NFLPA will appeal and he ill probably end up missing only 4.

I smell trade...

Not a chance in hell. No team aside from the Rams really need a QB bad enough to trade something for Ben. The Rams have the first round pick so I doubt they will need a QB after the first round tonight.

[papadopul]

I'm thinking that Ben ends up a Raider. The Raiders were trying to get McNabb before he went to Washington, and they don't have a real starter. Plus, they have a history of adopting the league's troubled players LOL. All the Steelers really want out of trading Ben is to move up in the draft (they currently have 18th pick) and the Raiders have the 7th pick, I believe. They won't trade him to the Browns because they are a rival, and the only other likely candidate with a higher draft pick & no real starter at QB is Buffalo, but Buffalo probably won't want to deal with the baggage (like Oakland will, and has frequently in the past)...