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Old 09-14-2009, 12:52 AM   #41
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If i were Button id really be getting worried now. At the back end of the year i think Rubens experience is going to be something Jensen cant answer, he needs to find some more speed over his team mate with some more aggressive driving, otherwise i think he will lose the title.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:03 AM   #42
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If i were Button id really be getting worried now. At the back end of the year i think Rubens experience is going to be something Jensen cant answer, he needs to find some more speed over his team mate with some more aggressive driving, otherwise i think he will lose the title.
I'm quite sure he will lose the title to Barrichello, Button isn't that good driver anyway, he just had a streak at the start of the season with incredible car, but Rubens has so much more experience that it starts to pay off now when the car isn't leaps and bounds ahead of others anymore
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:18 AM   #43
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Oh dear, poor britts, your Senna-incarnate, son of god failed once again and you have to go on poking at Kimi, who does everything he can in a mediocore car, in your misery to make yourselves feel better - even the BBC commentators, which includes actual ex-drivers and ex-team leader knows that he's driving just as good as anyone can in that car.
Except Massa, before his crash

Fisi will start to give Kimi a run for his money too by the end of the year when he gets some more miles in his belt with it.

BTW Fisi's drive in an unfamiliar car highlights how hard the job was for Badoer to keep up with the pack.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:21 AM   #44
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He better start taking more than 2 points off Button each race or it ain't gonna happen.

And if you gonna say Brits for the love of God stop using two t's, thanks.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:25 AM   #45
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I'm quite sure he will lose the title to Barrichello, Button isn't that good driver anyway, he just had a streak at the start of the season with incredible car, but Rubens has so much more experience that it starts to pay off now when the car isn't leaps and bounds ahead of others anymore
I agree Rubens might take the title from him. Though it's not the extra experience that will get him over the line. Button has a huge wealth of experience as well, so the gap is neglible. I still rate Button as a driver, higher than Kimi and about on par with Massa. Rubens is actually alot better than people give him credit for and I'd say equal to anyone running around on his day, MS just made him look second rate.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:49 AM   #46
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Except Massa, before his crash

Fisi will start to give Kimi a run for his money too by the end of the year when he gets some more miles in his belt with it.

BTW Fisi's drive in an unfamiliar car highlights how hard the job was for Badoer to keep up with the pack.
Massa did fine on the first half of the season, but it doesn't mean he would have done as good as Kimi is doing now on the 2nd half

And while you have of course the right for your own opinion, not rating Kimi as good as or even better than Massa, or anyone else on the track and one of the best clear talents is just being ignorant, honestly.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:28 AM   #47
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BTW Fisi's drive in an unfamiliar car highlights how hard the job was for Badoer to keep up with the pack.
...and why Schumi bunked out, blaming his neck... [rolleyes]
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:48 AM   #48
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Every F1 drivers crashes. Raikkonen even has a crash compilation video on youtube. I don't think your trying hard enough though if you don't sometimes push over the limit though, like Hamilton did.

All i think Button has to do is qualify ahead of or very close to Barrichello and he'll win.

Also, i'd be amazed if Mclaren keep Koveleinen on next year.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:11 AM   #49
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...and why Schumi bunked out, blaming his neck... [rolleyes]
If he didn't want to do it why would he says yes in the first place? He could have just said "No, sorry, I'm retired now".
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:15 AM   #50
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If he didn't want to do it why would he says yes in the first place? He could have just said "No, sorry, I'm retired now".
i think Dragonmike means he MS was willing, but once he got in the car and realised it was a nightmare, he needed to back out and keep his reputation. so he made an excuse,
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:20 AM   #51
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i think Dragonmike means he MS was willing, but once he got in the car and realised it was a nightmare, he needed to back out and keep his reputation. so he made an excuse,
MS never drove this seasons car, he used last seasons (and 2007's i think?) car.

It's kinda shame, Kimi and Alonso have pretty much the same problem both - they have quite different driving styles from most drivers, Kimi likes oversteering cars, Alonsos style is just downright perverse, if the team makes the car for both of their drivers, neither Alonso nor Kimi get the best out of it.
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Old 09-14-2009, 06:58 AM   #52
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i think Dragonmike means he MS was willing, but once he got in the car and realised it was a nightmare, he needed to back out and keep his reputation. so he made an excuse,
Yup, that's exactly what I meant.
How many laps did he test drive the "old" car again?
In any case many more than a pain in the neck (excuse the pun) would have allowed.

He had too much to lose coming back.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:03 AM   #53
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Schumacher getting beaten by a Force India would not go down well in the father land!
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:07 AM   #54
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Yup, that's exactly what I meant.
How many laps did he test drive the "old" car again?
In any case many more than a pain in the neck (excuse the pun) would have allowed.

He had too much to lose coming back.
Doing 100, 200+ test laps over a week =/ doing 55 consecutive race laps.

And by putting old in quotes are you trying to insinuate that MS tested in this years car, realised it was more then a handful so made up an excuse?

Yeah he did have a lot to lose coming back, but if he wasn't willing then he would have just said no initially ... he didn't feel up to it after testing, that's fair enough really, F1 is a pinnacle sport, you've got to be 100%.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:16 AM   #55
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I think MS was telling the truth. There's a lot of strain on an F1 driver's neck so if there's a problem with it (injury) it's no surprise that he pulled out.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:19 PM   #56
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Ferrari and Santander announced the expected sponsorship deal; instead of what the spanish media and one italian reporter wanted, they didn't see announcements of Alonso in the same event. Instead they got a wall-sized pic of Kimi


Those wishing for Alonso to come on Ferrari next season, you will know this weekend for sure, Ferrari has always announced their drivers at Monza if there's driver changes.

Oh, and as a tip, Montezemolo said that Ferrari still picks their own drivers, not their sponosors [thumbup]
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:37 PM   #57
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McLaren looking strong in practice, Fisi looking comfortable in the Ferrari, Force India still looking good too [thumbup]
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:40 PM   #58
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McLaren looking strong in practice, Fisi looking comfortable in the Ferrari, Force India still looking good too [thumbup]
True, though before anyone draws too many conclusions out of Fisichellas time, he drove it on softer tyres while Kimi used only the harder compound
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Old 11-09-2009, 09:13 PM   #59
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Ferrari and Santander announced the expected sponsorship deal; instead of what the spanish media and one italian reporter wanted, they didn't see announcements of Alonso in the same event. Instead they got a wall-sized pic of Kimi
Ferrari would still be waiting on Massa news first before deciding on their 2010 driver lineup.

Kimi is the only person to use in the poster, Massa is injured, Fisi hasn't had a race them yet, and Alonso is still bound by Renault sponsorship.

edit - given FI's meteoric rise in form recently I couldn't go past putting a fiver on Sutil at 21:1 to win. It dropped down to 12:1 after the performance in 2nd practice. Here's hoping!
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Old 11-10-2009, 01:22 AM   #60
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Ferrari would still be waiting on Massa news first before deciding on their 2010 driver lineup.

Kimi is the only person to use in the poster, Massa is injured, Fisi hasn't had a race them yet, and Alonso is still bound by Renault sponsorship.

edit - given FI's meteoric rise in form recently I couldn't go past putting a fiver on Sutil at 21:1 to win. It dropped down to 12:1 after the performance in 2nd practice. Here's hoping!
Kimi will drive Ferrari next season, that's for sure, only thing to "decide" is who starts on Massas place if Massa isn't ready when the season starts.
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