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Old 10-03-2008, 02:59 PM   #21
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they are welcome to try... i at least have the critics backing me up.

But then again, this isn't a childrens show.
Critics are primarily a bunch of idiots, so using that as a bases for your claims is not very strong. I watched the wire a few times and thought it was pretty boring.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:04 PM   #22
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thing is, deadwood ended when it should have, as it was based on an actual town that was abandoned not long after the rich man fixed the election. It was just a boon town, and once the gold was gone, so was the town.
not true. there was a lot more left to tell, and btw deadwood still exists today. so does the mine.

it was also meant to be a 5 season show.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:39 PM   #23
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not true. there was a lot more left to tell, and btw deadwood still exists today. so does the mine.

it was also meant to be a 5 season show.
"I envisioned each season as one year. The camp was destroyed at the end of four years, and I wanted four seasons" Straight from the creators mouth. There really wasn't much more to tell, just a wind down after the election and the disbnanding of the camp for the 4th season. There may be a town called deadwood, and it may be in the same exact spot as the original camp, but it is not the original camp by any means.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:44 PM   #24
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Critics are primarily a bunch of idiots, so using that as a bases for your claims is not very strong. I watched the wire a few times and thought it was pretty boring.
it is not a show you can watch a couple of times...it is a show you have to watch from the beginning, as i said, since it does not hold your hand and retell what happened at the beginning of each show. If you thought it was boring it was one of 2 things...either you had no idea of what was happening or you need lots of explosions to keep your attention
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:49 PM   #25
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it is not a show you can watch a couple of times...it is a show you have to watch from the beginning, as i said, since it does not hold your hand and retell what happened at the beginning of each show. If you thought it was boring it was one of 2 things...either you had no idea of what was happening or you need lots of explosions to keep your attention
Or the show sucked. [shocked]
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:50 PM   #26
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it is not a show you can watch a couple of times...it is a show you have to watch from the beginning, as i said, since it does not hold your hand and retell what happened at the beginning of each show. If you thought it was boring it was one of 2 things...either you had no idea of what was happening or you need lots of explosions to keep your attention
I had a fair assessment of what was going on, and lack of explosions is always a minor drawback, but even with these considerations in mind it was still fairly boring.
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:59 PM   #27
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I would even say very boring, but the whole genre is bloated anyway so what can you do.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:15 PM   #28
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Never heard of it, but it sounds crap so i'll avoid it, can't stand "cop" shows/dramas.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:17 PM   #29
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Season 1 and 2 where fantastic especialy season 1, then it started to drag and season 5 has been very poor.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:35 PM   #30
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Beh I hate those drama show's which people try to pass off as being real. Haven't seen this one, but let's say I will hold my own experience over anything aired by an US studio.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:53 PM   #31
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as i said, since it does not hold your hand and retell what happened at the beginning of each show.
That's a good thing? What if you miss an episode?

I don't know how you can call Heroes a "children's" show given the amount of gore in it.....unless you're calling any TV programme not based in reality a "children's" show.
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:52 PM   #32
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I hate to break this to you, but when your target audience is the 12-24 age group...it is a childrens show.
While you're probably right that its target audience is around 12-30 (as is with most sci-fi series, I guess), your definition of "childrens show" is weak. Also, your personal issue with suspension of disbelief would be rather critical when it comes to scifi series, have you considered the possibility that that's a personal thing?

On that note, have you also considered the possibility that people infer things that may not be correct? You call someone illiterate for inferring incorrectly - while calling him illiterate means you're inferring yourself based on very little information. (And obviously, regardless of your exaggeration, you're factually incorrect.)

Last but not least, even though I never meant for the thread to turn into a comparison between series, Firefly won plenty of awards as well and enjoys a lot of popularity. The Wire on the other hand, excellent as it may be, apparently always struggled to keep its audience interested. I'd argue that a television show that can't keep an audience is inherently flawed - if your show doesn't match the audience, you're failing to meet consumer demand and that's a rather vital part of television I believe. Now, I don't mean to say that that makes one show better than the other (both shows were troubled by things other than their quality), but I do feel that if you're going to call shows "utter crap" there should at least be some shred of truth in it.


apparently, not only do you very little knack for sarcasm, but you are illiterate also.
Apparently you're rude and when it's pointed out to you it only gets worse.
I find it curious that you're coming off as barbaric as you are.
That said, they all use the same formula and in ten years will be forgotten. The Wire is like hillstreat blues or MASH. It broke the mold and will be remembered for and heralded because of it. ...by all the people who didn't watch it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:10 PM   #33
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Yeah, Firefly got its plug pulled. However, it was liked enough that after the plug was pulled, they came back and made a movie for it. Seems like it did pretty well. Firefly's episodes were fairly separate, and didn't need to be watched in order for the most part. I like the show, mainly because the cast interacts so well with each other.

I guess all of the Star Trek's are kids shows as well. But I think you'll find that the average age of the viewership is a bit older than "kid". Not to say kids don't like it, I did. I was watching TOS and TNG at 9 years old and liked them quite a bit. And I've watched all of the others, though not as often as TNG, I can honestly say I've seen every episode. I enjoyed all of the newer stuff even as an adult.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:27 PM   #34
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if you want another show that got canned too soon... Deadwood.
probably because few people like westerns, but I thought it was awesome, lasted only 3 seasons
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:07 AM   #35
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"I envisioned each season as one year. The camp was destroyed at the end of four years, and I wanted four seasons" Straight from the creators mouth. There really wasn't much more to tell, just a wind down after the election and the disbnanding of the camp for the 4th season. There may be a town called deadwood, and it may be in the same exact spot as the original camp, but it is not the original camp by any means.
earlier you stated 3 seasons was enough, now you state 4 according to the author.

now saying 4 seasons is good enough for the storyline is one thing, but deadwood still exists. yes the tow burnt down, but there were still a lot of the same people there.

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/SD-D...dTimeline.html
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Old 10-04-2008, 03:05 AM   #36
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apparently, not only do you very little knack for sarcasm, but you are illiterate also.
Personal insults... GREAT way to get your point accross.

You're clearly the illiterate one as you can't seem to tell the difference between a child's show and a young adult's show.

That's a sad shape as you're clearly some grumpy, old 60-something who has been treated poorly by the younger generations. The other possibility is worse.

Stop trying to portray your opinion as fact, it does not help to get people to take you seriously.
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Old 10-04-2008, 03:07 AM   #37
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One show that really did not deserve to get cancelled was John Doe, great programme.

Oh, and Journeyman, really enjoyed that.
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Old 10-04-2008, 03:13 AM   #38
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Oh, and Journeyman, really enjoyed that.
Yeah, I enjoyed that as well. I started watching it thinking I'd just watch a couple of episodes just to see what it was like and then stop watching it, but I started getting in to it. Shame that it was canceled. It had the bloke out of "Rome" in it.
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:44 AM   #39
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I have to say Zeddoo, it is very hard to take you seriously when you result to personal insults and trying to pass off your opinion as fact in order to get your point across.
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:49 AM   #40
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One show that really did not deserve to get cancelled was John Doe
loved that show. but now we have prison break, which I also like.
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