[Metrujectiktus]

Ive trained in hte tasers usage. a part of which is BEING tased these are safe when used properly. the key word is PROPERLY, that aside, knowing all of this what do you suggest the officer should have done?

Were there never any arrests made before tasers? Jesus, you just tell her to put her hands on the back of the car and pin her there if she doesnt. Grab one arm cuff it, grab the other arm cuff it, done. Couldnt be that hard to arrest a 72 year old woman, they are pretty weak. Now, if he had tried to cuff her and she resisted/got away from him or had assaulted him at that time, then I would say, by all means shock her ass, but he didnt even try, he just tased her. Hes a ***** of a cop if he cant get a 72 year old woman into a set of hand cuffs without drawing his taser.

[mybooboo]

Or maybe you don't tase 72yo ladies for driving 15 over the speed limit duhhh
Or maybe she should've had the chance all the time duuuhhh
Or maybe the cop should act like a pro and actually try to avoid tasering the granny, being 300lbs heavier duuhhh

You know, at the moment she said she'd sign the ticket, the cop should've just given it to her to sign, wished her a nice day and driven off. Case closed. Job done. He wasn't intelligent enough to do so, and I see many pubescent dudes on this forum can't seem to understand that either and would rather taser the lady. You know, kids, this is life. Not Robocop.

Its called responsibility, accountability and proffessionalism.

You cannot honestly expect the people who PROTECT your LIFE, to so casually allow someone to throw a fit and then when they are good and ready sign it.

Thats like a child refusing to eat thier vegetables, throwing a fit and when you make good on your threats to "send them to thier room," suddenly they WANT the vegetables. You wouldnt give in to that child because that would send a message loud and clear: Throw a fit if you dont get your way and its 50/50 chance on wether or not you will get your way, but EITHER way, you wont get punished.

No Sir.

These are the police, they deal with all kinds of scum, they are shot at, they are burned alive in thier cars, thier families are targeted. They do all of the dirty work that WE dont want to do and get paid little to nothing for it. Then people like us, safe behind our computer screens sit here and bash them??

Anyways, have fun with the thread guys, I gotta run for work.

[mybooboo]

Heres the link to the video:
http://www.click2houston.com/video/19717742/index.html

I personally think that she was being obstinate and the officer had no choice. You can see that he did not want things to escalate to that point, but he had to get them both out of the road and she was trying to push past him. Police cant have people getting that close. Slim chance, but she could grab his gun etc. He was fighting to get her to cooperate, keep them off the road and ensure his own safety.

However, on the other hand, she IS an old lady. I think that in the end it will all be regarded as a "misunderstanding," I dont think that she should be charged and sent to jail. I think that the department should drop the charges against her, but KEEP the traffic speeding ticket charge. Shes old and old people become senile. Her children however should do that horrible thing that eventually must be done....Shes gotta loose her keys.

[WGfg4CCZ]

Yea all there was left, was using a TASER a little push would of killed her [rolleyes]
EDIT ,

NVM the old lady was wrong , weird he didn't shoot her dead

[endulundaSauh]

Shes old and old people become senile. Her children however should do that horrible thing that eventually must be done....Shes gotta loose her keys.

Totally agreed. The other day some old ******* ran the guy ahead of me off the road by merging into the other lane while going through a packed stoplight, and THEN he ran another guy off the road a minute later when he went straight through the left turn only lane that goes to the highway. In under 5 minutes he potentially caused 2 accidents. What if there had been a pedestrian near any of the cars he forced to go offroading? It's highly possible, since this was right at the walmart parking lot.

They seriously need to get senile drivers off the road. They're worse than teenagers.

IMO the cop was a bit rough with the old woman, especially the shoving. They move slow ya know.. be patient. She was uncooperative as well. I think if the cop had acted less like a **** in the beginning it could have gone better, but then again she was breaking the law and wasn't cooperating. IMO they both could have handled it better, but in the end she chose to break the law and not cooperate, and was going to drvive off... He made it clear she was going to get tased. She knew the outcome when she made her choice to resist. Age doesn't give anyone the right to disobey the law and act however they want.

[Neitteloxesia]

She was resisting arrest, the officer had to use minimal force. See nothing terribly wrong in the video

[Metrujectiktus]

Thats the dumbest friggen thing Ive seen, tasers are supposed to be used if the officer is threatened, not when they are too lazy to force an old lady to turn around and cuff her. Now I know she could have done alot of physical harm to him, what with her ninja agility and strength.[rolleyes]
Jesus, man up cop, grab the old hag and pin her against the truck and cuff her.

[Pa33anger]

Thats the dumbest friggen thing Ive seen, tasers are supposed to be used if the officer is threatened, not when they are too lazy to force an old lady to turn around and cuff her. Now I know she could have done alot of physical harm to him, what with her ninja agility and strength.[rolleyes]
Jesus, man up cop, grab the old hag and pin her against the truck and cuff her.

You need to think about it the other way, he possibly could have snapped her like a twig trying to arrest her

[VQdeochratis]

You need to think about it the other way, he possibly could have snapped her like a twig trying to arrest her

Yep he probably would of hurt her more trying to arrest her and pin her down.

[endulundaSauh]

Thats the dumbest friggen thing Ive seen, tasers are supposed to be used if the officer is threatened, not when they are too lazy to force an old lady to turn around and cuff her. Now I know she could have done alot of physical harm to him, what with her ninja agility and strength.[rolleyes]
Jesus, man up cop, grab the old hag and pin her against the truck and cuff her.

As EaG pointed out confronting her physically like that could potentially cause more harm.

Tasers are the proper choice. Supposed to be use if the officer is threatened? What? Tasers are perfect for subduing people. They're nonlethal and harmless in most cases.

He had to subdue her somehow, and using force would be far more likely to injure her than hitting her with a taser. Tasers are designed to subdue people. They cause a little pain, and loss of muscle coordination.

IMO tasers should be used more often. Give them the option to comply, they refuse, pull out the taser and ask the question again. If they don't respond to being hit once by the taser then move to using force.

[Metrujectiktus]

You need to think about it the other way, he possibly could have snapped her like a twig trying to arrest her

Maybe, but you get pretty thrashed when you get tased, first theres the fall, then the uncontrollable spasms of your limbs. Not to mention that much voltage going into a 72 year old body and heart. When that thing shoots it has prongs that imbed into your skin and the shock lasts a few seconds. It aint no walk in the park, I can assure you.

[Metrujectiktus]

As EaG pointed out confronting her physically like that could potentially cause more harm.

Tasers are the proper choice. Supposed to be use if the officer is threatened? What? Tasers are perfect for subduing people. They're nonlethal and harmless in most cases.

He had to subdue her somehow, and using force would be far more likely to injure her than hitting her with a taser. Tasers are designed to subdue people. They cause a little pain, and loss of muscle coordination.

IMO tasers should be used more often. Give them the option to comply, they refuse, pull out the taser and ask the question again. If they don't respond to being hit once by the taser then move to using force.

Thats the public opinion, a little pain. Dude I hurt for 3 days afterwards. Course he shocked me 5 times, lol... I deserved to be tased because I came after that *******, this lady didnt. imo

[WGfg4CCZ]

Yep he probably would of hurt her more trying to arrest her and pin her down.

Yep using a taser is harmless..
still stupid he didn't shoot her in the legs to force her down .

[didrexx]

Tasers are supposed to be a self defence weapon, it's ridiculous that they are now being used when ever the cop feels like it. [thumbdown]

And tasers are not always harmless, people have died due to their use.

[BruceCroucshs]

Tasers are supposed to be a self defence weapon, it's ridiculous that they are now being used when ever the cop feels like it. [thumbdown]

Ya it's quite popular...it's like when the MP3 came for teenagers lol..

[endulundaSauh]

Tasers are supposed to be a self defence weapon, it's ridiculous that they are now being used when ever the cop feels like it. [thumbdown]

And tasers are not always harmless, people have died due to their use.

If you're resisting arrest the cop has 2 choices. He can taze you, or he can force you to the ground and cuff you. The tazer is the safer method for both people, and is less harmful.

Tasers are not some deadly weapon that kills everyone that gets shocked. Used properly (as in not shocking someone until you run out of juice) tasers are pretty safe.

There is no safe and harmless way to subdue someone who is resisting arrest. Every option available to the officer carriers risk to himself and the other person.

The taser was the least harmful thing he did to that old lady. She's more likely to break a hip from the shoving than die from a single hit from a taser.


So pick your option.. force an old lady to the ground and cuff her using physical force... or zap her with a taser?

The only safe solution to the issue is for people to stop comitting crimes.

[Donadoni1809]

...see people say its harmless but did you hear her screams, she sounded like she was really in some severe agony and sounded frightened! she could have had a heart attack or something!?

The emotional damage could be quite bad?

[VQdeochratis]

...see people say its harmless but did you hear her screams, she sounded like she was really in some severe agony and sounded frightened! she could have had a heart attack or something!?

The emotional damage could be quite bad?

If I ever decide to rob a bank I will sue them for having such good security systems that it made me worried and gave me a heart attack.

[mybooboo]

...see people say its harmless but did you hear her screams, she sounded like she was really in some severe agony and sounded frightened! she could have had a heart attack or something!?

The emotional damage could be quite bad?

Its just a hard call IMO. They didnt show the entire clip, but she was obviously not cooperating.

Now I think that this is MUCH different than some thug/degenerate being uncooperative, I think everyone here knows an elderly person who is downright stubborn and senile. Had this been a small town, a phone call to the family probably would have occured, but Austin is a big city and even though shes probably just a stubborn old woman, she could be dangerous. He was a bit rough and impatient with her though.

In the end I think they were both a bit "hot," and they both should apologize to each other, she should appear in court for the traffic violation and both should be on thier way. After than I think that that precient should go through some "sensitivity training" on how to handle elderly people.

Its not something you think about every day but, how DO you handle obstinate, stubborn and uncooperative elderly people? I tend to lean on the side of "let them have thier way," but in the case of upholding the law, you CANT do that.

[Sydneyfonzi]

she was being a stubborn cow and being retarded... she deserved everything she got... "i dare you"...

not normal for 72 yr olds going round saying that sort of thing to police officers or anyone for that matter.