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Old 11-06-2009, 10:02 PM   #21
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Utterly crazy money to pay for one footballer. For an extra £20 million they could've bought Newcastle United!

Still, I know what the better deal is



How do football transactions work? Real Madrid is paying 80 million to Man Utd to have the rights to Ronaldo, but how does Ronaldo get paid/how is his salary determined?
That will be negotiated between himself and Real Madrid, but for comparison's sake he was on £150,000 a week at Manchester United. That is just basic wage as well, there is also goal bonus, win bonus, tournament win bonus etc on top of that so..... yeah he'll be on a lot of money.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:07 PM   #22
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That will be negotiated between himself and Real Madrid, but for comparison's sake he was on £150,000 a week at Manchester United. That is just basic wage as well, there is also goal bonus, win bonus, tournament win bonus etc on top of that so..... yeah he'll be on a lot of money.
Sponsorship is the real kicker though, especially if you've got the good looks.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:09 PM   #23
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Utterly crazy money to pay for one footballer. For an extra £20 million they could've bought Newcastle United!

Still, I know what the better deal is

That will be negotiated between himself and Real Madrid, but for comparison's sake he was on £150,000 a week at Manchester United. That is just basic wage as well, there is also goal bonus, win bonus, tournament win bonus etc on top of that so..... yeah he'll be on a lot of money.
What happens to the 80 million if he is unable to come to a wage agreement with Real Madrid?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:14 PM   #24
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Sponsorship is the real kicker though, especially if you've got the good looks.
Oh absolutely, and not just Ronaldo himself but for Real Madrid's global image. Beckham wasn't bought because he was the best player in the world, they simply wanted to increase their global market, especially in Asia where La Liga just doesn't have the pull of the English Premier League. If Madrid can use Ronaldo properly then they can make their £80 million back in no time.

"When [David] Beckham came we went from earning €7m a year to €45m a year through our deals with our sponsors. We salvaged the situation of the club. If Cristiano Ronaldo comes, even though he is currently with Nike, he then puts on an Adidas shirt every week. There are certain players who are very profitable because they have spectacular commercial repercussions that earn the club money." Personally, given how much Real Madrid have gone and ****ed up the transfer market with their ridiculous displays of spending the bank's money, I hope that this Galcticos Era ends the same way as the last one did.


What happens to the 80 million if he is unable to come to a wage agreement with Real Madrid? No money changes hands until the player agrees personal terms with the club. United hold Ronaldo's contract so footballing transfer laws say that Madrid have to agree a fee with his club before they are allowed to speak to the player. It might well be that the player doesn't want to move, in which case no money changes hands and everything returns to normal.

That won't happen here though, he wants to go.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:15 PM   #25
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What happens to the 80 million if he is unable to come to a wage agreement with Real Madrid?
The transfer doesn't happen. Basically, Man U have agreed that, since there is £80m on the table, RM can start talking to Ronaldo. Obviously Ronaldo and his team will have to have his agreement with his new club for the money to then take place. The "money" itself may not totally be cash; some may be a partial exchange with another player RM want to get rid of.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:15 PM   #26
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What happens to the 80 million if he is unable to come to a wage agreement with Real Madrid?
then no transfer. he's only going if everyone's happy. man utd are happy with £80m and not paying his wages. Real have to be happy with doing it instead. plus Ronaldo has to be happy with the wage deal he gets.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:20 PM   #27
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So any time a player switches teams in Euro football the player must basically approve of the transfer?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:26 PM   #28
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So any time a player switches teams in Euro football the player must basically approve of the transfer?
Not necessarily, he can be "kicked out" in which he has no spot on the team or even the bench; likewise if the player's contract has run out the player can go anywhere he likes without club approval. Politics in football rocks. FIFA governs international rules; UEFA is subbed in to have some secondary rules applicable to Europe and then a local body to govern local leagues like the EFA. Transfer rules are usually made by FIFA/UEFA.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:35 PM   #29
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Not necessarily, he can be "kicked out" in which he has no spot on the team or even the bench; likewise if the player's contract has run out the player can go anywhere he likes without club approval. Politics in football rocks. FIFA governs international rules; UEFA is subbed in to have some secondary rules applicable to Europe and then a local body to govern local leagues like the EFA. Transfer rules are usually made by FIFA/UEFA.
So when a player signs with a club they sign for a certain number of seasons? How many season were left on Ronaldo's contract? Now that he may be going to Real Madrid his contract with Man Utd will be void when he signs with Madrid?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:41 PM   #30
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So when a player signs with a club they sign for a certain number of seasons? How many season were left on Ronaldo's contract? Now that he may be going to Real Madrid his contract with Man Utd will be void when he signs with Madrid?
Correct. Manchester United currently hold the player registration for Ronaldo, i.e. he is contracted to them and cannot play for anyone else.

Real Madrid have offered Manchester Utd £80 million to buy the registration for Ronaldo (in effect) and they will offer Ronaldo a contract for a specified length of time. During that time, if any other club wants him, they must make Real Madrid an offer. If however, his contract runs out out Real Madrid, he is free to join any other club.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:42 PM   #31
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So when a player signs with a club they sign for a certain number of seasons? How many season were left on Ronaldo's contract? Now that he may be going to Real Madrid his contract with Man Utd will be void when he signs with Madrid?
It's something that's discussed between the player and the club, sometimes with escape clauses from both parties but with the ability for the club to sell the player. Say if the player was unhappy and had a clause he could leave after one year during his 5-year contract the club would be forced to sell him on. His contract with Man U will cease the moment he signs his contract with RM under FIFA rules.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:48 PM   #32
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If Ronaldo does go to R Madrid, then 21 Million of that money will go to Wigan for Valencia
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:51 PM   #33
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You can argue till you're blue in the face but you know dam well no one man should ever be paid this much EVER! im right and you know it.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:59 PM   #34
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You can argue till you're blue in the face but you know dam well no one man should ever be paid this much EVER! im right and you know it.
Well if you cured cancer or found a 100% solution to somethine almost impossible like crimes!
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:20 PM   #35
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You can argue till you're blue in the face but you know dam well no one man should ever be paid this much EVER! im right and you know it.
So Women being paid that is ok?


YOU SEXIST PIG!!! [cursing]
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:40 PM   #36
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You can argue till you're blue in the face but you know dam well no one man should ever be paid this much EVER! im right and you know it.
Nearly all sportsmen and women can only do sports in their prime for ~15 years. Even if you earn around £150,000 a year for 10 years, that money makes up for the failures they made in school and can't even get a job at Tesco.
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:13 AM   #37
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Nearly all sportsmen and women can only do sports in their prime for ~15 years. Even if you earn around £150,000 a year for 10 years, that money makes up for the failures they made in school and can't even get a job at Tesco.
Or if your name is Ronaldo, £7.8 million a year.[ban]
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:17 AM   #38
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You forget that for sport players, at least performance can be measured.
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