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**24MurinivaMak** · 01-30-2009, 06:52 AM

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece

The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth!

**pipitous** · 01-30-2009, 06:58 AM

Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really.

That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible.

**Assungusa** · 01-30-2009, 07:03 AM

Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really.

That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible.

you sure i think we pay enough taxes now. so you pay for a service only to then get taxed on top.. i need to move from this shite hole England we call home.

**24MurinivaMak** · 01-30-2009, 07:31 AM

Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really.

That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible.

That's £1.60 a month I don't think I should have to pay.

**flueftArete** · 01-30-2009, 09:58 AM

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece

The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth!

Wow thats total bullcrap, just sounds like a way of getting more money

**appabessy** · 01-30-2009, 06:59 PM

Oh look! Another tax!

[thumbdown]

**Xewksghy** · 01-30-2009, 09:24 PM

This country really is in the **** and I'm sick of it tbh, soon as I can get out I'm going to Italy or somewhere (if possible)

I don't want to start ranting but it really angers me to even see Gordon Brown talking anymore, or darling, or that conservative one I can't even remember his name he's such a non entity. Honestly I watched question tie again last night and it was same old crap, conservative guy, again I have no idea who he was, just had a go at the labour guy, same old rhetoric word for word "you got us in this mess". We know they did, we know they borrowed craploads from China etc and they should have done better, but what we need now is SOMETHING OTHER THAN MOANING. When asked what they will do conservatives don't seem to have anything there.

I like Leb Dems now tbh they seem quite normal in comparison, see I started ranting.....

But back on topic, more tax is just what's going to happen to pay back this massive deficit. The country has no massive industry left as they relied on the financial sector for most revenue I imagine, that's down the pan so it's the taxpayers that will foot the bill. They'll slowly but surely start all these stupid taxes to try to hide what they are doing.

**mralabama** · 01-30-2009, 09:38 PM

Well we already have a similar tax on devices that can record video (DVRs, video cameras with video in etc). Although IIRC that money actually goes to the movie companies.

**uranbigis** · 01-30-2009, 09:40 PM

That's £1.60 a month I don't think I should have to pay.

all this reminds me of this thread where i said you wouldnt like it if you suddenly started getting taxed for web browsing.

yet it was alright for drivers to get taxed some more?

**zenihan** · 01-30-2009, 09:46 PM

Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really.

That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible.

that explains why people dare to come up with such ideas in the UK, you are supposed to stand before goverment buildings with torches

to combine something like that with Digital Britain is just unbelievable, only in the UK...

**24MurinivaMak** · 01-30-2009, 09:49 PM

all this reminds me of this thread where i said you wouldnt like it if you suddenly started getting taxed for web browsing.

yet it was alright for drivers to get taxed some more?

Where did I say it was ok for drivers to get taxed some more? And exactly what tax are you referring to?

**10traistintarry** · 01-30-2009, 10:02 PM

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece

The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth!

A great proportion of people ARE guilty TBFH, especially the younger generation who seem to be under the impression that music should be free.

If this reduces piracy, I'm all for it, as some people take the piss.

**Turbo-ip** · 01-30-2009, 10:08 PM

A great proportion of people ARE guilty TBFH, especially the younger generation who seem to be under the impression that music should be free.

If this reduces piracy, I'm all for it, as some people take the piss.

That's because they don't have the money but they do, unfortunately, have the lust for "more fun". [stupid]

Anyway, that's just bullshit. Another stupid way to get money in a crap way. Argh..

**uranbigis** · 01-30-2009, 10:10 PM

Where did I say it was ok for drivers to get taxed some more? And exactly what tax are you referring to?

here...

Give me one good reason why it shouldn't apply to everyone. But then it would affect you and all the other moaners in this thread, and woe betide anyone who tries to put any restrictions on your driving. [rolleyes]

**24MurinivaMak** · 01-30-2009, 10:55 PM

here...

That was a safety issue. AFAIK nobody ever died because of piracy.

**uranbigis** · 01-30-2009, 11:42 PM

That was a safety issue. AFAIK nobody ever died because of piracy.

does that make a difference? its still wrong. plus a drivers mot would save zero lives anyway.

**pipitous** · 01-31-2009, 07:50 AM

That was a safety issue. AFAIK nobody ever died because of piracy.

http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/...459255,00.html

You never said what type of piracy.

**traiffhetl** · 01-31-2009, 08:25 AM

Bring on 2012 games!

Let the world see how much UK really does suck [thumbup]

**AndreasLV** · 01-31-2009, 09:05 PM

http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece

The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth!

I'm wondering how many times i have to tell myself i hate the UK before i move.

ARGH!

**uranbigis** · 01-31-2009, 10:30 PM

I'm wondering how many times i have to tell myself i hate the UK before i move.

ARGH!

if i didnt have a decent job here id be gone. to be honest i might go anyway.

01-30-2009, 06:52 AM	#1
24MurinivaMak Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	£20 broadband piracy tax proposed. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 06:58 AM	#2
pipitous Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 597 Senior Member	Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really. That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 07:03 AM	#3
Assungusa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really. That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible. you sure i think we pay enough taxes now. so you pay for a service only to then get taxed on top.. i need to move from this shite hole England we call home. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 07:31 AM	#4
24MurinivaMak Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really. That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible. That's £1.60 a month I don't think I should have to pay. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 09:58 AM	#5
flueftArete Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth! Wow thats total bullcrap, just sounds like a way of getting more money Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 06:59 PM	#6
appabessy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	Oh look! Another tax! [thumbdown] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 09:24 PM	#7
Xewksghy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 504 Senior Member	This country really is in the **** and I'm sick of it tbh, soon as I can get out I'm going to Italy or somewhere (if possible) I don't want to start ranting but it really angers me to even see Gordon Brown talking anymore, or darling, or that conservative one I can't even remember his name he's such a non entity. Honestly I watched question tie again last night and it was same old crap, conservative guy, again I have no idea who he was, just had a go at the labour guy, same old rhetoric word for word "you got us in this mess". We know they did, we know they borrowed craploads from China etc and they should have done better, but what we need now is SOMETHING OTHER THAN MOANING. When asked what they will do conservatives don't seem to have anything there. I like Leb Dems now tbh they seem quite normal in comparison, see I started ranting..... But back on topic, more tax is just what's going to happen to pay back this massive deficit. The country has no massive industry left as they relied on the financial sector for most revenue I imagine, that's down the pan so it's the taxpayers that will foot the bill. They'll slowly but surely start all these stupid taxes to try to hide what they are doing. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 09:38 PM	#8
mralabama Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 452 Senior Member	Well we already have a similar tax on devices that can record video (DVRs, video cameras with video in etc). Although IIRC that money actually goes to the movie companies. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 09:40 PM	#9
uranbigis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 456 Senior Member	That's £1.60 a month I don't think I should have to pay. all this reminds me of this thread where i said you wouldnt like it if you suddenly started getting taxed for web browsing. yet it was alright for drivers to get taxed some more? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 09:46 PM	#10
zenihan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	Its £20 a year per BB connection though, so if that's right it amounts to about £1.60 being added onto a monthly contract fee, which is nothing really. That's not to say I want to pay it, but still its only £1.60 extra a month, so its no completely terrible. that explains why people dare to come up with such ideas in the UK, you are supposed to stand before goverment buildings with torches to combine something like that with Digital Britain is just unbelievable, only in the UK... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 09:49 PM	#11
24MurinivaMak Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	all this reminds me of this thread where i said you wouldnt like it if you suddenly started getting taxed for web browsing. yet it was alright for drivers to get taxed some more? Where did I say it was ok for drivers to get taxed some more? And exactly what tax are you referring to? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 10:02 PM	#12
10traistintarry Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 385 Senior Member	http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth! A great proportion of people ARE guilty TBFH, especially the younger generation who seem to be under the impression that music should be free. If this reduces piracy, I'm all for it, as some people take the piss. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 10:08 PM	#13
Turbo-ip Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	A great proportion of people ARE guilty TBFH, especially the younger generation who seem to be under the impression that music should be free. If this reduces piracy, I'm all for it, as some people take the piss. That's because they don't have the money but they do, unfortunately, have the lust for "more fun". [stupid] Anyway, that's just bullshit. Another stupid way to get money in a crap way. Argh.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 10:10 PM	#14
uranbigis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 456 Senior Member	Where did I say it was ok for drivers to get taxed some more? And exactly what tax are you referring to? here... Give me one good reason why it shouldn't apply to everyone. But then it would affect you and all the other moaners in this thread, and woe betide anyone who tries to put any restrictions on your driving. [rolleyes] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 10:55 PM	#15
24MurinivaMak Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	here... That was a safety issue. AFAIK nobody ever died because of piracy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-30-2009, 11:42 PM	#16
uranbigis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 456 Senior Member	That was a safety issue. AFAIK nobody ever died because of piracy. does that make a difference? its still wrong. plus a drivers mot would save zero lives anyway. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-31-2009, 07:50 AM	#17
pipitous Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 597 Senior Member	That was a safety issue. AFAIK nobody ever died because of piracy. http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/...459255,00.html You never said what type of piracy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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traiffhetl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	Bring on 2012 games! Let the world see how much UK really does suck [thumbup] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-31-2009, 09:05 PM	#19
AndreasLV Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 492 Senior Member	http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/...cle5607744.ece The latest barmy idea is to charge ISP's £20 a year per bb connection (which of course we will end up paying) and use the money to fund a quango to help fight piracy. This smacks of everyone's guilty until proven innocent to me. I'm against piracy but this is a step too far; if anything it would make me want to download stuff to get my money's worth! I'm wondering how many times i have to tell myself i hate the UK before i move. ARGH! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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01-31-2009, 10:30 PM	#20
uranbigis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 456 Senior Member	I'm wondering how many times i have to tell myself i hate the UK before i move. ARGH! if i didnt have a decent job here id be gone. to be honest i might go anyway. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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