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Old 09-04-2008, 08:07 PM   #1
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My God man! Get a life...go to some parties, have promiscuous sex, you know, that kind of thing...not reading the old bleeding testament...
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:19 PM   #2
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This?

The prophet of God, Jeremiah, warned his fellow Jews that if they did not heed the Word of God and repent of their sins, God would allow the soldiers of Babylon to come in, destroy their country, and carry them far away. Most of the Jews paid no attention to Jeremiah's warnings. Consequently, the army of Babylon came from the east, destroyed Jerusalem, broke down the temple and took the Jews captives, transporting them to Babylon, just as the prophet Jeremiah had predicted. Thus the Jewish people were dispersed, because they refused to obey the word of God's prophets.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:25 PM   #3
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The killing of Saul? Sorry, I don't have a lot of time. Probably a better behaving religious person will be around soon and be more help.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:41 PM   #4
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A thought I have heard is that it didn't show trust in God, another thought was that it shows an abuse of the jewish common man by King David.

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Old 09-04-2008, 08:49 PM   #5
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It's probably some weird translation thing...

Or that YHWH was a rather disagreeable and angry individual...

Or that David was having trouble getting new recruits to continue his wars of aggression, so needed to scare the people a bit with "YHWH's wrath" so that his vision for a sprawling military-industrial complex could come to pass.
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Old 09-04-2008, 08:57 PM   #6
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yes this one is pure kick ass... they count the people for 9 months, and than God says: you screwed up what do you want, here are three choices and David instead of chosing three years of famie, three months of fleeing choses three days of plague?!?

he could have prepared for famine, and he was the dude who did all this, should not he have been fleeing for 3 months??? but he choses the plague which killed 70k people... now if King George did this what would American peole say I wander???

In any case it seems that God is angry on David in particular because he was (probably by this act) showing to everyone he is counting on his human might to rule/conquer etc... sidelining God... so God being in the active role with both him and Israel kicked their ass just to show who is in charge around there....

Even more interesting is the choise of three bad things that can happen where David chose the shortest one time wise?!? and where presumably 70k of innocent people were offed for Davids mistakes... that one I don't get... why give the perpetrator of the crime the choice of punishment especially if he himself is not really touched by it (at least not mentioned), the only thing that David loses is 1/10th of his army/population and that's it...

all in all an interesting chapter...
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