[LorencoLoricelli]

I hate work with a passion and would not work a single day in my whole life if i wouldn't have to, in order to make a living.

[FallJimerks]

I hate work with a passion and would not work a single day in my whole life if i wouldn't have to, in order to make a living.

I'm much the same, I have no drive to be successful other than to purchase a load of crap I'll probably never get any use out of.

If I could afford to I'd quit tomorrow.

[tattcasetle]

What a tender generalisation of the British people using a small example minority queuing outside the doll office.
Next week from Chris and the BBC, 90% of Britain is thought to be on drugs after running a survey at a Camden crack house.

Exactly my thoughts as well. One interview with one guy and suddenly the whole of British youth are lazy layabouts.

Yep Britain rocks..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7291985.stm

Of course this sort of stuff never happens in other countries does it...

[royarnekara]

For us in the States it's the Guatimalians. They take jobs and bring average construction pay down. Some people may get 10 to $15 an hour as a laborer but a Gautamalian will do it for $5----off the books. If they weren't here then someone would maybe get $20 an hour, who knows. This is JUST speculation!

Most people don't want to do the work the Guats do anyway so on the same token, the illigals may even be helping the U.S.A. The argument can go in soooooo many different directions.

I'll stop there though since it's probably just a huge can of worms...

However....

Think about it though. If somebody is bitching about an immigrant taking minimum wage jobs then he/she is doing something wrong in life.

I wouldn't ever want to be in that position, bitching about how I can't get a low-paying job because an immigrant took it

I'm sure it depends on the circumstance though.

[girlsround]

Think about it though. If somebody is bitching about an immigrant taking minimum wage jobs then he/she is doing something wrong in life.

I wouldn't ever want to be in that position, bitching about how I can't get a low-paying job because an immigrant took it

What do you mean? That all citizens should have college degrees instead? Low paying jobs are also for nationals, not just for immigrants. A construction worker is a totally fine job, done by many fine (yet usually drunk ) guys. I am not in that position myself, but complaining about people that do jobs off the record for half the money is justified. But of course its not the immigrants fault. Its the greedy corps that gladly hire those immigrants. Thats where the IRS or whoever is responsible should hand out higher fines or let the CEOs do a little jail time. Different wages in different countries are bad enough in times of globalization, but within your own country its even worse.

And I doubt there is a single job in a western country that can only be done by immigrants. Even though that chap didnt want to harvest crops or whatever, there are many other peeps, that would take the job without a word. But of course the newspapers dont write a single line about them.

[pKgGpUlF]

Of course this sort of stuff never happens in other countries does it...

No never, that's why I posted it with the headline 'UK only crime reported, this never happens anywhere else!!1'

Of course it does you tool, but this one happened in the UK.. it's British youths at their finest which I believe this thread to be about?

[tattcasetle]

No never, that's why I posted it with the headline 'UK only crime reported, this never happens anywhere else!!1'

Of course it does you tool, but this one happened in the UK.. it's British youths at their finest which I believe this thread to be about?

The fact that your original post included the line "Yep Britain rocks.." seems to indicate that you believe that the crime you posted about somehow "proves" that Britain is worse than other countries, which it does not.

[pKgGpUlF]

The fact that your original post included the line "Yep Britain rocks.." seems to indicate that you believe that the crime you posted about somehow "proves" that Britain is worse than other countries, which it does not.

No, it proves it's shite. Stop being pedantic.

[Amerworma]

mid-end of last year; I worked as a case admin in my local probation service for just £5.75 an hour!

To be honest with you though I'm currently signed on but that's because I'm moving to Japan to work as a teacher soon and no one would give me a job for a few weeks, not even work agencies.

Though saying that I think my work in Japan could be ****ed because of the time it's going to take to get my Visa processed

[tattcasetle]

No, it proves it's shite. Stop being pedantic.

I see, because the argument you're trying to use is complete crap I'm being "pedantic". [rolleyes]

[pKgGpUlF]

I see, because the argument you're trying to use is complete crap I'm being "pedantic". [rolleyes]

Bungle - the post is about British youth, I posted a link to another article show how great British youths are. How difficult is this for you to grasp? Stop being an arse.

[Soassesaisp]

Bungle - the post is about British youth, I posted a link to another article show how great British youths are. How difficult is this for you to grasp? Stop being an arse.

QFT............

[tattcasetle]

Bungle - the post is about British youth, I posted a link to another article show how great British youths are. How difficult is this for you to grasp? Stop being an arse.

It's not me being arse, it's YOU, just because I disagree with your generalisations about British youth.

[Anaedilla]

It's not me being arse, it's YOU, just because I disagree with your generalisations about British youth.

you must admit though if you see a bunch of hoodies standing around outside an off licsence /shop or on a street you feel a little edgy.

I know I do and I can handle my self, so you self generalize these groups of people because normally these people are upto no good.

you would be stupid if you walked passed them as if they were little saints and not even have the thought that one of them may bad mouth you or even worse get agro with you for no reason at all.

also ur from the south east have you read the coastal news recently about that bloke who was beaten to death outside his house by a bunch of youths because he disturbed them burglaring his house and after he was incapacitated they continued to burgle his house stepping over him severa times with his possessions.

and that was margate you know the place where all the grannies go for their hols

I'm sorry to say it but these kind of things are becoming more common,and coastal towns as I remember them used to be safer than inland towns/city's

[tattcasetle]

you must admit though if you see a bunch of hoodies standing around outside an off licsence /shop or on a street you feel a little edgy.

I know I do and I can handle my self, so you self generalize these groups of people because normally these people are upto no good.

you would be stupid if you walked passed them as if they were little saints and not even have the thought that one of them may bad mouth you or even worse get agro with you for no reason at all.

also ur from the south east have you read the coastal news recently about that bloke who was beaten to death outside his house by a bunch of youths because he disturbed them burglaring his house and after he was incapacitated they continued to burgle his house stepping over him severa times with his possessions.

and that was margate you know the place where all the grannies go for their hols

I'm sorry to say it but these kind of things are becoming more common,and coastal towns as I remember them used to be safer than inland towns/city's

I never said there aren't bad people about - as there plainly are - but generalsing about a whole group of people is never a good thing.

[Anaedilla]

I never said there aren't bad people about - as there plainly are - but generalsing about a whole group of people is never a good thing.

problem is you cant segregate them so all you can do is generalize.

what you gonna do walk up to a bunch of hoodies and say


"hellargh old chaps,dibbnt chee naaaar that your all being tarred with the same brush by the general public."

and expect them to say

"by jove old chap your right but were to goody hoodies dibbnt cheee naaaaaaar we like to play tiddley winks on street corners and go to church on sundays.

[engacenus]

problem is you cant segregate them so all you can do is generalize.

what you gonna do walk up to a bunch of hoodies and say


"hellargh old chaps,dibbnt chee naaaar that your all being tarred with the same brush by the general public."

and expect them to say

"by jove old chap your right but were to goody hoodies dibbnt cheee naaaaaaar we like to play tiddley winks on street corners and go to church on sundays.

must be hard seeing everything in just black and white - or can you do greyscale?

[Anaedilla]

must be hard seeing everything in just black and white - or can you do greyscale?

yeah as what bungle said not all of the U K's youths are hoodies intent on causing grief for other people and its a shame that people are grouped into these stereotypes.

but you cant deny the fact that you feel uptight when you see these hoodies hanging around when you pop to the shops no matter how benign or not their reasons for being there.

the UK has a problem with louts and its mostly caused by alcohol,boredom and social issues and I'd even say its really the parents and governments fault.

1: hanging around with nothing to do except getting booze off the unscrupulous off license owner (governments fault on both counts for not enforcing underage drink purchasing legislation hard enough to the licencees and not setting up enough stimulating schemes to keep kiddies preoccupied like clubs and stuff )

2: parents being too laps to prevent the kids from getting up to no good by letting them hang about all hours.

i can see in colour perhaps its a different hue,but I can see the problems clear enough and its deffo getting worse.

[gydrorway]

For us in the States it's the Guatimalians. They take jobs and bring average construction pay down. Some people may get 10 to $15 an hour as a laborer but a Gautamalian will do it for $5----off the books. If they weren't here then someone would maybe get $20 an hour, who knows. This is JUST speculation!

I doubt. Personally I'd welcome the Guatemalans since the standard of living is clearly far to good for General Laborers where you live. Unless of course you just made up those figures and few General Laborers are going to make even $10 dollars.

[royarnekara]

I doubt. Personally I'd welcome the Guatemalans since the standard of living is clearly far to good for General Laborers where you live. Unless of course you just made up those figures and few General Laborers are going to make even $10 dollars.

Nope, not made up at all.

That's also why I say they(immigrants) may be good to us as well. Nobody around where I live would get paid LESS than $10 an hour for construction laborer. Minimum wage in NY is between 7 and 8 an hour(depending where in NY give or take). Therefore, you can work at a grocery store and can make almost as much as having to bust your ass. Creates lazy americans I guess lol

Trust me, I worked my way up. I worked at my uncle's stone yard splitting and moving stone all day. That and plenty of construction. I've been there before. The work is no joy but an honest living... considering you're doing physically demanding work all day in either -13F or 105F.

I guess the immigrants really deserve some respect. Other issues as regards to ways of living and acting in society would be my real concerns...i'll leave that alone.