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**everlastinge** · 07-20-2007, 02:52 AM

It probably is, although the Veyron is meant to be limited to it's top speed.

If that where true they would push up that limit 3mph to reclaim the 'fastest production car' label, right? Not that it means much to me, just can imagine it to be a nice sales slogan

**Nifoziyfar** · 07-20-2007, 03:03 AM

I like the late 80's early 90's Camaro. Drop an LS2/LS3 a long with several other modifications and I would be set.

**BCVB9SOc** · 07-20-2007, 03:08 AM

Has to be the Daytona Cobra :

Managed to get up close and personal with one at the Le Mans classic race in '04

**ViaxobbimeVar** · 07-20-2007, 03:12 AM

Has to be the Daytona Cobra :

Managed to get up close and personal with one at the Le Mans classic race in '04

That looks beautifull, not only that but it looks like it could steer to ( which is more then most of the cars posted in this thread, my own submission included.. ).

**BCVB9SOc** · 07-20-2007, 03:17 AM

That looks beautifull, not only that but it looks like it could steer to ( which is more then most of the cars posted in this thread, my own submission included.. ).

Its a seriously pretty car. I had the pleasure of watching Bob Bondurant race it (he drove it at Le Mans originally in 1964) and i can tell you it was very impressive, the guy is nearly 80 and there he was drifting this thing through the porsche curves at one in the morning

[rofl]

Edit: Here is a bit on the car http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_Daytona

**Guloqkcm** · 07-20-2007, 04:07 AM

If that where true they would push up that limit 3mph to reclaim the 'fastest production car' label, right? Not that it means much to me, just can imagine it to be a nice sales slogan

I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model...

**nuveem7070** · 07-20-2007, 05:25 AM

My favourite is without a doubt, the Dodge Charger. Brilliant looking thing, and even better when their beefed up such as this beuty!!
http://www.peom.se/images/060416_Elm...harger-70A.JPG

**Averti$ingGuru** · 07-20-2007, 05:33 AM

I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model...

Exactly. It's a tuner car - not a production car and apparantly less than a dozen are made. You simply can't call it the fastest production car ever made compared to the Veyron.

Face the fact - that Viper is simply no achievement like the Veyron is, which is built from the ground up to be solid at top speed, drive you in comfort and luxury and handle well around a track even when it nearly weighs two tonnes. I'd have a Veyron anyday.

**rowneigerie** · 07-20-2007, 06:02 AM

Exactly. It's a tuner car - not a production car and apparantly less than a dozen are made. You simply can't call it the fastest production car ever made compared to the Veyron.

Face the fact - that Viper is simply no achievement like the Veyron is, which is built from the ground up to be solid at top speed, drive you in comfort and luxury and handle well around a track even when it nearly weighs two tonnes. I'd have a Veyron anyday.

You can have your $1,440,800 "achievement". I'll take the $225,000 monster that beats it and buy 20 more cars and a fully furnished house.

And like 300 is a "production" number anyways. You shouldn't even be able to claim that unless you're making more than several thousand of a model.

**Zebrabitch** · 07-20-2007, 06:16 AM

1965 427 Shelby Cobra

It can pretty much smoke anything stock off the line. 500 hp on a 2700 lb. body.

**ViaxobbimeVar** · 07-20-2007, 07:10 AM

I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model...

I would agree on that assumptiom but I would love to know for sure

Exactly. It's a tuner car - not a production car and apparantly less than a dozen are made. You simply can't call it the fastest production car ever made compared to the Veyron.

Face the fact - that Viper is simply no achievement like the Veyron is, which is built from the ground up to be solid at top speed, drive you in comfort and luxury and handle well around a track even when it nearly weighs two tonnes. I'd have a Veyron anyday.

Who wouldn't

You can have your $1,440,800 "achievement". I'll take the $225,000 monster that beats it and buy 20 more cars and a fully furnished house.

And like 300 is a "production" number anyways. You shouldn't even be able to claim that unless you're making more than several thousand of a model.

Well.... the viper isn't the best handling car in it's class, and a viper with 1000hp well idk like I said I really would love to see it on a track first [yes] So, raw straight line speed ( something all US Muscle cars excell in ) I expect yes, and I recon it might be able to keep up and maybe surpuss the Veyron idk could be.... But I don't believe untill I see it with my own eyes that it can handle a track like a veyron can.

Ow and to be honest, since I wouldn't even be able imagine being able to pay for the veyron, and the alternative is priced allot lower... Well it's not actually competition either, with the Veyron you could do groceries without problems, and it's a pretty practical car considering it's price segment

**GueseVekdet** · 07-20-2007, 07:13 AM

I like the old Shelby GT500, I still use it when I play Granturimo 2.

**rujeltaoser** · 07-20-2007, 07:54 AM

there is a vid of a veyron wiping the floor with a maclaren slr, its hard to beleive how fast it is

and i beleive there were/are plans to release a 1250bhp version of the veyron as well

**Voliscietle** · 07-20-2007, 08:58 AM

Ford GT -

0-60 mph (0-96 km/h): 3.8 s
0-100 mph (0-161 km/h): 8.8 s
Topspeed: 212 mph (339 km/h)

**rowneigerie** · 07-20-2007, 10:44 AM

I would agree on that assumptiom but I would love to know for sure

Who wouldn't

Well.... the viper isn't the best handling car in it's class, and a viper with 1000hp well idk like I said I really would love to see it on a track first [yes] So, raw straight line speed ( something all US Muscle cars excell in ) I expect yes, and I recon it might be able to keep up and maybe surpuss the Veyron idk could be.... But I don't believe untill I see it with my own eyes that it can handle a track like a veyron can.

Ow and to be honest, since I wouldn't even be able imagine being able to pay for the veyron, and the alternative is priced allot lower... Well it's not actually competition either, with the Veyron you could do groceries without problems, and it's a pretty practical car considering it's price segment

Funny... it seems to wipe the floor with everything thrown at it every year on every magazine (C&D, MT to list a few) and wins the road course test every time. Yeah, it can't turn worth ****...

Neither can the slightly modified stock SRT-10, which won the 2004 and 2006 Formula D Championship.

Neither can the previous gen's GTSR's (yes I know they have different suspension setups) which won at Le Mans in the GT2 class in 98 and 99. Also won the GT2 manufacturer's world championship every year from 98-02.

But yeah you're right, they suck at handling...

I would hope a car that costs almost six times what the 1000 costs would beat it on a road course. I would hate to have wasted all that money to not be the best.

**Patgaepx** · 07-20-2007, 02:28 PM

i vote ford gt.

based on looks

**opelonafqe** · 07-20-2007, 04:30 PM

So many to choose from. Charger, Stingray, Many mustangs.

But Ive always liked the Mach I looks: Looks good
________
Mermaid
________
The Vision Condo Pattaya

**Sandra_18X** · 07-20-2007, 06:56 PM

Funny... it seems to wipe the floor with everything thrown at it every year on every magazine (C&D, MT to list a few) and wins the road course test every time. Yeah, it can't turn worth ****...

Neither can the slightly modified stock SRT-10, which won the 2004 and 2006 Formula D Championship.

Neither can the previous gen's GTSR's (yes I know they have different suspension setups) which won at Le Mans in the GT2 class in 98 and 99. Also won the GT2 manufacturer's world championship every year from 98-02.

But yeah you're right, they suck at handling...

I would hope a car that costs almost six times what the 1000 costs would beat it on a road course. I would hate to have wasted all that money to not be the best.

In any case, you don't buy a Veyron when you have only a couple of mil, you buy it when you have a couple of hundred million dollars. Oh **** ! They ask you first if you want to buy one.

**Sandra_18X** · 07-20-2007, 06:57 PM

I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model...

Tuned Veyron anyone ?

**rowneigerie** · 07-20-2007, 07:16 PM

Tuned Veyron anyone ?

like its not tuned enough...? Any more HP and this car is going to need to be made of coolant to run without blowing up. This car isn't exactly a vanilla N/A model, which is why all these people arguing an unfair comparison between a "tuned" car and a "production" model is moot.

What I find hilarious is the fact that they even have to bring in a Veyron into this discussion to make their comparison competitive.

07-20-2007, 02:52 AM	#21
everlastinge Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	It probably is, although the Veyron is meant to be limited to it's top speed. If that where true they would push up that limit 3mph to reclaim the 'fastest production car' label, right? Not that it means much to me, just can imagine it to be a nice sales slogan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 03:03 AM	#22
Nifoziyfar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 423 Senior Member	I like the late 80's early 90's Camaro. Drop an LS2/LS3 a long with several other modifications and I would be set. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 03:08 AM	#23
BCVB9SOc Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	Has to be the Daytona Cobra : Managed to get up close and personal with one at the Le Mans classic race in '04 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 03:12 AM	#24
ViaxobbimeVar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	Has to be the Daytona Cobra : Managed to get up close and personal with one at the Le Mans classic race in '04 That looks beautifull, not only that but it looks like it could steer to ( which is more then most of the cars posted in this thread, my own submission included.. ). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 03:17 AM	#25
BCVB9SOc Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	That looks beautifull, not only that but it looks like it could steer to ( which is more then most of the cars posted in this thread, my own submission included.. ). Its a seriously pretty car. I had the pleasure of watching Bob Bondurant race it (he drove it at Le Mans originally in 1964) and i can tell you it was very impressive, the guy is nearly 80 and there he was drifting this thing through the porsche curves at one in the morning [rofl] Edit: Here is a bit on the car http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_Daytona Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 04:07 AM	#26
Guloqkcm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	If that where true they would push up that limit 3mph to reclaim the 'fastest production car' label, right? Not that it means much to me, just can imagine it to be a nice sales slogan I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 05:25 AM	#27
nuveem7070 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	My favourite is without a doubt, the Dodge Charger. Brilliant looking thing, and even better when their beefed up such as this beuty!! http://www.peom.se/images/060416_Elm...harger-70A.JPG Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 05:33 AM	#28
Averti$ingGuru Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model... Exactly. It's a tuner car - not a production car and apparantly less than a dozen are made. You simply can't call it the fastest production car ever made compared to the Veyron. Face the fact - that Viper is simply no achievement like the Veyron is, which is built from the ground up to be solid at top speed, drive you in comfort and luxury and handle well around a track even when it nearly weighs two tonnes. I'd have a Veyron anyday. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 06:02 AM	#29
rowneigerie Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	Exactly. It's a tuner car - not a production car and apparantly less than a dozen are made. You simply can't call it the fastest production car ever made compared to the Veyron. Face the fact - that Viper is simply no achievement like the Veyron is, which is built from the ground up to be solid at top speed, drive you in comfort and luxury and handle well around a track even when it nearly weighs two tonnes. I'd have a Veyron anyday. You can have your $1,440,800 "achievement". I'll take the $225,000 monster that beats it and buy 20 more cars and a fully furnished house. And like 300 is a "production" number anyways. You shouldn't even be able to claim that unless you're making more than several thousand of a model. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 06:16 AM	#30
Zebrabitch Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 634 Senior Member	1965 427 Shelby Cobra It can pretty much smoke anything stock off the line. 500 hp on a 2700 lb. body. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 07:10 AM	#31
ViaxobbimeVar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model... I would agree on that assumptiom but I would love to know for sure Exactly. It's a tuner car - not a production car and apparantly less than a dozen are made. You simply can't call it the fastest production car ever made compared to the Veyron. Face the fact - that Viper is simply no achievement like the Veyron is, which is built from the ground up to be solid at top speed, drive you in comfort and luxury and handle well around a track even when it nearly weighs two tonnes. I'd have a Veyron anyday. Who wouldn't You can have your $1,440,800 "achievement". I'll take the $225,000 monster that beats it and buy 20 more cars and a fully furnished house. And like 300 is a "production" number anyways. You shouldn't even be able to claim that unless you're making more than several thousand of a model. Well.... the viper isn't the best handling car in it's class, and a viper with 1000hp well idk like I said I really would love to see it on a track first [yes] So, raw straight line speed ( something all US Muscle cars excell in ) I expect yes, and I recon it might be able to keep up and maybe surpuss the Veyron idk could be.... But I don't believe untill I see it with my own eyes that it can handle a track like a veyron can. Ow and to be honest, since I wouldn't even be able imagine being able to pay for the veyron, and the alternative is priced allot lower... Well it's not actually competition either, with the Veyron you could do groceries without problems, and it's a pretty practical car considering it's price segment Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 07:13 AM	#32
GueseVekdet Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	I like the old Shelby GT500, I still use it when I play Granturimo 2. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 07:54 AM	#33
rujeltaoser Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	there is a vid of a veyron wiping the floor with a maclaren slr, its hard to beleive how fast it is and i beleive there were/are plans to release a 1250bhp version of the veyron as well Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 08:58 AM	#34
Voliscietle Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 346 Senior Member	Ford GT - 0-60 mph (0-96 km/h): 3.8 s 0-100 mph (0-161 km/h): 8.8 s Topspeed: 212 mph (339 km/h) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 10:44 AM	#35
rowneigerie Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	I would agree on that assumptiom but I would love to know for sure Who wouldn't Well.... the viper isn't the best handling car in it's class, and a viper with 1000hp well idk like I said I really would love to see it on a track first [yes] So, raw straight line speed ( something all US Muscle cars excell in ) I expect yes, and I recon it might be able to keep up and maybe surpuss the Veyron idk could be.... But I don't believe untill I see it with my own eyes that it can handle a track like a veyron can. Ow and to be honest, since I wouldn't even be able imagine being able to pay for the veyron, and the alternative is priced allot lower... Well it's not actually competition either, with the Veyron you could do groceries without problems, and it's a pretty practical car considering it's price segment Funny... it seems to wipe the floor with everything thrown at it every year on every magazine (C&D, MT to list a few) and wins the road course test every time. Yeah, it can't turn worth ***... Neither can the slightly modified stock SRT-10, which won the 2004 and 2006 Formula D Championship. Neither can the previous gen's GTSR's (yes I know they have different suspension setups) which won at Le Mans in the GT2 class in 98 and 99. Also won the GT2 manufacturer's world championship every year from 98-02. But yeah you're right, they suck at handling... I would hope* a car that costs almost six times what the 1000 costs would beat it on a road course. I would hate to have wasted all that money to not be the best. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 02:28 PM	#36
Patgaepx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	i vote ford gt. based on looks Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 04:30 PM	#37
opelonafqe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	So many to choose from. Charger, Stingray, Many mustangs. But Ive always liked the Mach I looks: Looks good ________ Mermaid ________ The Vision Condo Pattaya Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 06:56 PM	#38
Sandra_18X Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 456 Senior Member	Funny... it seems to wipe the floor with everything thrown at it every year on every magazine (C&D, MT to list a few) and wins the road course test every time. Yeah, it can't turn worth ***... Neither can the slightly modified stock SRT-10, which won the 2004 and 2006 Formula D Championship. Neither can the previous gen's GTSR's (yes I know they have different suspension setups) which won at Le Mans in the GT2 class in 98 and 99. Also won the GT2 manufacturer's world championship every year from 98-02. But yeah you're right, they suck at handling... I would hope* a car that costs almost six times what the 1000 costs would beat it on a road course. I would hate to have wasted all that money to not be the best. In any case, you don't buy a Veyron when you have only a couple of mil, you buy it when you have a couple of hundred million dollars. Oh **** ! They ask you first if you want to buy one. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 06:57 PM	#39
Sandra_18X Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 456 Senior Member	I've got a feeling the Veyron is a bit better to drive at top speed than the Viper. Besides, I wouldn't call a tuned Viper a production model... Tuned Veyron anyone ? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2007, 07:16 PM	#40
rowneigerie Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 542 Senior Member	Tuned Veyron anyone ? like its not tuned enough...? Any more HP and this car is going to need to be made of coolant to run without blowing up. This car isn't exactly a vanilla N/A model, which is why all these people arguing an unfair comparison between a "tuned" car and a "production" model is moot. What I find hilarious is the fact that they even have to bring in a Veyron into this discussion to make their comparison competitive. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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