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Old 09-28-2006, 09:14 AM   #21
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The interesting thing, to me anyway, is that AFAIK I'm still the only one that's actually "seen" a ghost there.

Which makes me wonder about it being caught on camera. If I saw it but my wife didn't, would a camera really have seen it?
The possibilities are rather high that you saw some kind of "ball lightning", or some other kind of energy outlet.
The ball lightning phenomena go´s way back, untill the med evil times (afaik, first noted back then) they were often seen in the woods and called "Irrlichter" (ger) sometimes produced by very common things like the Hallimash mushroom which tends to "glow" at night other times by this, today, known lightning phenomena.

To the "only one here that´s seen" factor, i believe that as a child i also saw a ghost,
Even now 20 something years later i can still remember the incedent (to lazy to typ it up) and living over 5 years in a over 200 year old house that survived both WW´s and had 1 person kill himself in and others being shot during WW2, i´ve had my fair share of "wierd happenings".
Somehow, i´ve allways been followed by the paranormal stuff.
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:55 AM   #22
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:19 PM   #23
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lol. really, you're quite an artist. [thumbup]
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:28 PM   #24
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I once drank half a litre of Jack Daniels - then sat on my computer and thought i witnessed Jack Daniels himself float through my computer room...

But on a more serious note, we were all sat in the front room when all of us saw someone go upstairs pass the living room door...so my Dad (being the man of my house) went upstairs to check (as we thought we were being burgled) to find nothing when he walked into the bedroom. His hairs just stood up on the back of his neck.

I slightly belief and really want to be haunted just soo i know for sure lol.
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Old 09-28-2006, 09:42 PM   #25
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We will all die at some point and find out.
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Old 09-29-2006, 02:01 PM   #26
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Solitude, darkness, and old architecture can combine to creep me out, but being uncomfortable in such environments is simply a natural instinct. The concept of ghosts is truly dark ages stuff.

[surrender] I'm surprised to read so many posters (who I assume are educated adults) talk about "spirits" and "ghosts"... it's absurd. These things are just a product of certain people's imaginations running wild.

By the way, I've got some very reasonably-priced ghost repellant that will be up on EBay in the near future. Better stock up, people! All Hallow's Eve is just around the corner.
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:54 PM   #27
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[surrender] I'm surprised to read so many posters (who I assume are educated adults) talk about "spirits" and "ghosts"... it's absurd. These things are just a product of certain people's imaginations running wild.
I completely understand what you mean... and would agree entirely except that I can't.
And had you been there, you wouldn't think as you do now, trust me
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Old 09-29-2006, 08:42 PM   #28
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Solitude, darkness, and old architecture can combine to creep me out, but being uncomfortable in such environments is simply a natural instinct. The concept of ghosts is truly dark ages stuff.

[surrender] I'm surprised to read so many posters (who I assume are educated adults) talk about "spirits" and "ghosts"... it's absurd. These things are just a product of certain people's imaginations running wild.

By the way, I've got some very reasonably-priced ghost repellant that will be up on EBay in the near future. Better stock up, people! All Hallow's Eve is just around the corner.
Agree with you 100% I can't believe that in this day and age people still believe in ghosts and ghouls. Very odd.
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Old 09-29-2006, 11:34 PM   #29
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Old 09-30-2006, 12:12 AM   #30
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In the same way that I dont believe in Gods and such I find it hard to believe that ghosts and the like exist. While not being explained as religious I still don't see how science has let such "phenomena" exist for so long.

I'm not going to knock those of you who reckon you've experienced one though, I just think there's another explanation. Be it physical or mental.
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Old 09-30-2006, 02:37 AM   #31
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not seen one personally so not sure what i think on the subject, i would be inclined to say there are other explanations for the things that occur

i do recall watching a program about the subject involving edinburgh dungeons i think it was, as many people have reported seeing things down there

anyway they mapped out the room where it all happened and did a virtual reality headset test with people, and they saw things that are not there are they said it was down to the room or something like that
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Old 09-30-2006, 02:41 AM   #32
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In the same way that I dont believe in Gods and such I find it hard to believe that ghosts and the like exist. While not being explained as religious I still don't see how science has let such "phenomena" exist for so long.

I'm not going to knock those of you who reckon you've experienced one though, I just think there's another explanation. Be it physical or mental.
Here is something you don't see many people bring up - why must ghosts be the souls of a deceased? It is more feasable that they are simply another form of life, that we have yet to explain.

However, Weaszel, your questioning the validity of them because science has yet to explain them, holds no water. We could not explain or even understand Atoms for thousands of years - it made them no less real. Honeslty, science still has lots to explain that is real (dark matter for instance).
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Old 09-30-2006, 02:46 AM   #33
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However, Weaszel, your questioning the validity of them because science has yet to explain them, holds no water. We could not explain or even understand Atoms for thousands of years - it made them no less real. Honeslty, science still has lots to explain that is real (dark matter for instance).
It's interesting that some people (not anyone in particular) who are so anti-religion turn into playing the part of the believer in a thread about ghosts. [rofl]

I like your explanation of science and explaining the world.

IMHO, it goes to show that people value personal experience more than anything else. If you feel that you have experienced a ghost, no one can convince you otherwise.
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Old 09-30-2006, 03:16 AM   #34
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I've seen a few Ghosts in my time, so I definately believe.

I've driven through a Ghost on my motorcycle when I was 16, nearly 22 yrs ago,
And found out later that it was an old poacher who lived in the area 60 yrs ago.

I've seen the Ghost of a newly deceased Dog, that my parents had had for 11 years, He was my "baby" and I never got the chance to say Goodbye to him, But he came to me, when I was closing up for work, I know it was him, because of something he did.

I've also seen the Ghost of my late grandfather and his dog, at the foot of my bed, a week after his funeral, when I was 11 yrs old.

And my mother and father have also seen something that they would only describe as a "wraith" of some sort, that happened when they were driving across a place called the "denbigh moors" in N.Wales where I live, the moors is a desolate place of swampy marshland, heather and fern about 15-20 miles across.
I was 13 yrs old, asleep on the back seat of my dads car,
We were driving across the moors at 2am, and the moors are littered with sheep, some that even decide to sleep in the middle of the road.
After coming over the brow of a hill, my father saw something in his headlights, swerved but hit it with the left side of the car, he stopped and got out to check, And after walking back about 20 yards or so, with a torch, found a huge black "creature" on the side of the road, He thought it resembled a bear of some kind, But when the "thing" rose up to the height of about 7 feet, then looked at him with dull red eyes, He said he felt "chilled to the very core of his soul".

My mother was screaming at him to get back in the car, so he ran back, jumped in, gunned the engine and they drove like idiots until they were off the moors.

My father only told me this story about 10 yrs ago, because he was so scared that if it got out to the media or papers he would be ridiculed for being some sort of crackpot or nutcase.
As it was, my father is a very level headed guy, who only believes in unexplained things when he has seen it himself, yet he nor my mother could no more explain to me what they saw that night as they could explain the secrets of the universe.

You could say my father is a scientist too, since his job, before he retired, was Nuclear Chemist & Physicist at power stations all over the UK for the last 34 yrs or so.

I don't care if no one believes me, or my parents, but there are many things in this life that cannot be explained logically and the existence of ghosts and ghouls is just one of them.
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Old 09-30-2006, 03:32 AM   #35
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It's interesting that some people (not anyone in particular) who are so anti-religion turn into playing the part of the believer in a thread about ghosts. [rofl]
I don't think that not believing in God and believing in ghosts are mutually exclusive.
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Old 09-30-2006, 03:35 AM   #36
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Here is something you don't see many people bring up - why must ghosts be the souls of a deceased? It is more feasable that they are simply another form of life, that we have yet to explain.
That, you see, is my take on it as well.
I don't necessarily think what we call "ghosts" are deceased beings. I think they could be many different things. Even ranging as far as beings from another dimension "crossing into" ours. I know that's pretty far fetched, and that's pretty much my wildest theory.
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Old 09-30-2006, 05:20 AM   #37
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ghosts are an intellectual association to several unexplained phenomenons. Just like rainbow, you cant touch them, but that doesnt mean theses phenomenon doesnt exist.
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Old 09-30-2006, 05:27 AM   #38
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I don't think that not believing in God and believing in ghosts are mutually exclusive.
I didn't say that.

I believe in God, and do not believe in ghosts. I said people take personal experience over any other form of evidence or "science."

I've never seen a ghost, never had reason to believe in ghosts. The whole ghost thing just makes no sense to me.
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Old 09-30-2006, 05:28 AM   #39
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ghosts are an intellectual association to several unexplained phenomenons. Just like rainbow, you cant touch them, but that doesnt mean theses phenomenon doesnt exist.
A rainbow isn't an unexplained phenomenon. If you think it is, then... uh.. I dunno what to tell you. [rofl]
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Old 09-30-2006, 05:33 AM   #40
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A rainbow isn't an unexplained phenomenon. If you think it is, then... uh.. I dunno what to tell you. [rofl]
My bad, wrong phrasing. I know there is a logical explanation behind rainbow, but I meant that even though we cant touch them, just like ghosts, that doesnt make them any less real.
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