[SueveDobe]

So I'm moving to an actual city. Not a wannabe city like I used to live in. I'm moving to Indianapolis for work.

I'm used to crime being a domestic disturbance because a woman forgot to grab a beer from the fridge or walked in front of the T.V. while Nascar was on. Burglaries don't happen, nobody messes with your stuff, and your children are safe outside.

I don't like long drives to work. Currently my house is about 2 miles from where I work. The problem with Indy is that my employer is on the east side which has steadily gone down hill and is now somewhat ghetto. The first apartment I was looking at had 8 burglaries and 4 armed robberies in the past 6 months.

What should I be looking for as far as crime goes? I realize I'm not going to find anything close to what I have out here in the country, not even in a gated community. At what level should I consider an area to be relatively safe as far as cities go?

It's making apartment hunting kind of hard, especially since I want a short commute but the closer I get the more ghetto things become. Apartments that sound great at first turn out to have a decent amount of crime in the area.

None of the apartments seem to be too expensive, but I'm somewhat miserly and would prefer to spend the minimum amount necessary. Why pay $800 when I could pay $600... that's a new kindle fire every month! It's hard finding the right balance of rent+utils/safety/distance.

[Rnlvifov]

http://www.city-data.com/

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

Google data on your individual apartments. Maybe try to find as high class as possible in your price range.


Buy a couple guns
Get your carry permit
Buy a couple fire extinguishers
Buy renters insurance
Buy car insurance that covers damage/stolen stuff
Get the best security system installed
Install a couple hidden cameras
On your PC, phones, tablets, etc, install some GPS tracking stuff on them.
Buy a fat safe and bolt it to the floor.

[JMLot]

Step 1: Ignore everything that reddog said.

Step 2: Deal with it, getting robbed is not horrible. It is ****ing assholes like reddog that escalate a simple robbery to a violent crime.

[CIAFreeAgent]

Step 1: Ignore everything that reddog said.

Step 2: Deal with it, getting robbed is not horrible. It is ****ing assholes like reddog that escalate a simple robbery to a violent crime.

And this is how you look like a target.

Don't look like a target.

[Rnlvifov]

Step 1: Ignore everything that reddog said.

Step 2: Deal with it, getting robbed is not horrible. It is ****ing assholes like reddog that escalate a simple robbery to a violent crime.

Ok, don't get insurance. Don't get a fat safe to put all your valuables in that CANT be stolen *hint* bolted to the floor!. Don't listen to me, listen to the dumb **** above.

A simple robbery to violent crime. Tell me, how does that happen? You have to be home! How is it the home owner (me in this case I guess) the *******? Who broke into the house?! The ******* robber! It isn't about robbery either. You don't know what that person is going to do, if they are armed, if they are on drugs, if they may harm you because they see you are home and see you as a threat. I'd rather not be beaten, tied up or killed if I can prevent it. Rather not same family killed, raped, mangled, etc. That is how horror stories like that happen. A simple robbery, and then people die, get beaten, get raped, etc.


You'd be a retard if you don't do everything in your power to best protect not only your dwelling (insurance at a minimum), but your life, especially in areas of high crime where lots of people walk around with guns, knives, etc and so do the criminals. Lots of people on drugs. Plus I am sure everyone in that ghetto is armed pretty well too. A firearm is just part of the equation to hopefully be able to better protect you.

[JMLot]

I have a strong suspicion that you have never been robbed.

Please, do not turn this into one of those things where you have thought out all possibilities and have experienced it all.

--- Post Update ---

BTW, I did not consider home invasions, I only considered stick-ups.

[Rnlvifov]

How did I? Yes I have been robbed, twice, thankfully while not at home. Three times I have had attempted entry while at home where thankfully turning on lights was all that was needed. Wouldn't have been pretty if they continued the home invasion.

I don't plan what is going to happen if **** goes down while I am home. It is unpredictable. Whatever you plan will more than likely never happen and never help you.



Edit:
We on totally different pages then. The OP said this "8 burglaries and 4 armed robberies in the past 6 months"
though as far as the stickups, yeah, just give them whatever they want. Though if you have that pistol on your hip, if this continue to go south and don't want your face eaten, you got something you can use to defend yourself with.

[JMLot]

How did I? Yes I have been robbed, twice, thankfully while not at home. Three times I have had attempted entry while at home where thankfully turning on lights was all that was needed. Wouldn't have been pretty if they continued the home invasion.

I don't plan what is going to happen if **** goes down while I am home. It is unpredictable. Whatever you plan will more than likely never happen and never help you.

Ok, I am all over the place. Sorry.

Let me clarify: I did not even consider home invasion. I assumed he meant street or gas station robbery. I think you are correct when it comes to home invasion.

[bunkalapa]

Getting robbed isn't funny to me. I would definitely kill a robber if i had the chance to. Don't go around shady parts of town and carry yourself with confidence that will avoid most of your problems.

[SueveDobe]

Step 1: Ignore everything that reddog said.

Step 2: Deal with it, getting robbed is not horrible. It is ****ing assholes like reddog that escalate a simple robbery to a violent crime.

I'm the type of ******* who would keep a loaded shotgun in a closet. Although I wouldn't fire if they were unarmed I'd point it at them and ask them politely to drop what they're holding and GTFO. I have no desire to take a life, but no desire to let someone walk all over me.

I use the Indianapolis M.A.P.S. system to check 6 months worth of crime in a given apartment complex. If it has more than 4 burglaries I won't even look at it. Only one has shown up with 0 and a very low crime rate, and it's within my price range at the high end. Or well, within what I WANT to pay. My next favorite I found has individual security alarms in each unit.


Home invasions are what I care about. I've never been the victim of a crime (other than hate crime. :P). As long as people don't mess with my car or my apartment I'm fine. If someone wants my wallet they can have it. I carry no cash and will cancel my cards in a heartbeat. Never been robbed, it would be scary, but I'm not going to go all tough guy on someone. Unless they try to take my phone. Then I'll rip their still beating heart out and feed it to them.

[Rnlvifov]

lol, I edited last post Will. lol. funny stuff.

[Elelaytet]

Buy a couple guns. Get your carry permit

You "need" a gun because violent crime in America is among the highest in the world. Violent crime is high because American gun laws are too lax (the Constitution does not protect individual rights to gun ownership, btw). They're lax because paranoids from the suburbs think they need guns for self-defense against violent crime. It's a vicious circle, and you're just making the problem worse.

[CIAFreeAgent]

You "need" a gun because violent crime in America is among the highest in the world. Violent crime is high because American gun laws are too lax (the Constitution does not protect individual rights to gun ownership, btw). They're lax because paranoids from the suburbs think they need guns for self-defense against violent crime. It's a vicious circle, and you're just making the problem worse.

Yeah, wrong. Most gun crimes are not committed with legal guns.

[Elelaytet]

Yeah, wrong. Most gun crimes are not committed with legal guns.

The ease at which a "legal" gun can be flipped onto the black market should really be taken into consideration before repeating this tired line of defense.

[Rnlvifov]

You "need" a gun because violent crime in America is among the highest in the world. Violent crime is high because American gun laws are too lax (the Constitution does not protect individual rights to gun ownership, btw). They're lax because paranoids from the suburbs think they need guns for self-defense against violent crime. It's a vicious circle, and you're just making the problem worse.

Gun laws have only been getting more lax (End of Clinton's Assault Rifle Ban, DC allowing pistols, etc), and since the early 1990's crime has been dramatically dropping.
With the internet, it makes firearms even easier to get as well. Yet if you bother to look up some crime statics they are WAY down and still headed in a toward slop from their highs.


Also, the Supreme court doesn't agree with you that the Constitution does not protect right to bare arms. It was a recent decision too in the last few years. That is all that matters.

[SueveDobe]

You "need" a gun because violent crime in America is among the highest in the world. Violent crime is high because American gun laws are too lax (the Constitution does not protect individual rights to gun ownership, btw). They're lax because paranoids from the suburbs think they need guns for self-defense against violent crime. It's a vicious circle, and you're just making the problem worse.

Guns aren't the problem it's America's culture of selfishness and violence that is the problem. Even if we had no guns crime would still occur because the poor and and disenfranchised would still steal and rob out of a sense of entitlement. Many people feel that people who are better off owe them something. Americans are entitled to a comfortable and easy life and feel angry when someone else who they assume was handed a better lot in life gets things they desire. We live in aMErica. Nobody matters but ME.

[ZX3URrBH]

Yeah, wrong. Most gun crimes are not committed with legal guns.

Yes they are.

Do you really think that guns are ever made or manufactured illegally ?

They were all legal guns at one point and a lot of them end up on the streets as illegal guns through the usual legal channels.

Ever heard of straw purchases of guns. Read a little.

[CIAFreeAgent]

Yes they are.

Do you really think that guns are ever made or manufactured illegally ?

They were all legal guns at one point and a lot of them end up on the streets as illegal guns through the usual legal channels.

Ever heard of straw purchases of guns. Read a little.

We already proved last time that you have no idea what goes on in the U.S.

[rikdpola]

Step 1: Ignore everything that reddog said.

Step 2: Deal with it, getting robbed is not horrible. It is ****ing assholes like reddog that escalate a simple robbery to a violent crime.

For someone who professes to be so well educated, your pretty dim at times.

[JMLot]

Do you really think that guns are ever made or manufactured illegally ?

Absolutely!

I heard on NPR a few weeks ago that Colt alone manufacturers almost double the amount of guns annually that are sold legally. Where do you think those guns are going?