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Old 08-03-2012, 07:48 AM   #1
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Default Star Wars IV: A New Hope compared to Star Wars I: Phantom Menace
The acting is wooden beyond belief. Ben Kenobi is no 3% of the wise old jedi compared to qui gon.
Darth Vader scary? Buwhwhahaha, don't be serious, once again the acting totally ruins it. You're simply wrong. Choking people is scarier than, say, some guy with face paint and horns.

Predictable story line... why is it that movies I've already seen are so predictable when I watch them again?

I was eight years old when I saw the Phantom Menace and I still thought it was crap compared to the originals... YOU'RE WRONG.
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:51 AM   #2
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It is terrifying that someone so wrong can actually exist in this universe.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:43 AM   #3
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You're simply wrong. Choking people is scarier than, say, some guy with face paint and horns.
Maybe he would've been more scary if he wouldn't have talked. The talking was the worst.

Predictable story line... why is it that movies I've already seen are so predictable when I watch them again?

I didn't say predictable is bad, I said that it was as predictable as the prequal.
Everything in Hope was on par with Menace and Clones, imho. Revenge was even slightly better, unfortunately Bale talked during it and his wooden acting is so laughable.... "In my opinion the jedi are evil" LOL

I was eight years old when I saw the Phantom Menace and I still thought it was crap compared to the originals... YOU'RE WRONG.

But WHY are the originals better?
Keep in mind: I'm not saying that the prequels are better, I just fail to understand why 'fans' always seem to whine about the prequels while the originals are equally bad....

Wiglaf: Perhaps Plomp should start a Star Wars review contest, that seems like it would be a good way to hear the best uncensored arguments about the quality of the prequels.

We don't need to censor anything overhere on Apolyton, the biggest trolls overhere censor themselves using the edit option
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:27 PM   #4
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Not all of us were 9 when the original came out.
A lot of it was that prior, most SF movies were grade B atrocities (with just a few exceptions like Forbidden Planet)
TV the decade prior was Lost in Space and the original Star Trek.
With that type of experiences, Star Wars was a huge event with (at the time) great special effects.
And yes while the plot was a tad predictable, it was a tried and true one that has been used in 100s of books.
But most importantly, it was different than almost everything that had been done prior.

The prequels were all eye candy just like almost every other movie offered. It was nothing different or special.
And then top it off with JAR JAR and young Anakin to annoy everyone and you are left going "so what"
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:51 PM   #5
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:31 PM   #6
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Star Wars saga in total is dreck. Ages horribly. All it had going for it at the time was the unique special effects and action style missing in films of the time. Now that every movie is a Michael bay production the Star Wars saga is a big nothing burger save for those aflicted with some nostalgia.

The poor reviews of SW 1-3 were as much a reflection of the times and raised expectations of the action genre as it was how horrible an acutal writer Lucas was finally recognized as.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:37 PM   #7
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I was eight years old when I saw the Phantom Menace and I still thought it was crap compared to the originals... YOU'RE WRONG.
Same here. QFT.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:43 PM   #8
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It was your typical western just set in space.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:58 PM   #9
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Yeah. Especially lines like these:
Actually I thought the strongest lines were in the little imperial meetings like on the death star and pretty much any scene with Darth Vader.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #10
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:42 PM   #11
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In episode 2 they threw in ****ing Samuel L. Jackson and STILL managed to make it suck. That is an accomplishment.
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Old 08-03-2012, 05:47 PM   #12
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The British have always been villains. That's why they raped Africa and Asia and started both World Wars.
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Old 08-03-2012, 06:34 PM   #13
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To be honest, in the original "Star Wars" (Ep 4), Darth Vader wasn't nearly as scary as in "Empire Strikes Back". Both him and Obi-Won were ridiculously wooden in their lightsaber battle. Though the choking was kickass, it wasn't until "Empire" until Vader really lived up to his frightening villain-ness.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:46 AM   #14
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Even Obi Wan hated A New Hope.

Guinness's role as Obi-Wan Kenobi in the original Star Wars trilogy, beginning in 1977, brought him worldwide recognition by a new generation, as well as Golden Globe and Academy Award nominations. In letters to his friends, Guinness described the film as "fairy tale rubbish," but the movie's sense of moral good – and the studio's doubling of his initial salary offer – appealed to him, and he signed on.[16] He was one of the few cast members who believed that the film would be a box office hit; he negotiated a deal for 2% of the gross royalties paid to the director, George Lucas, who received one fifth of the box office takings. This made him very wealthy in his later life, and he agreed to take the part of Kenobi on the condition that he would not have to do any publicity to promote the film. Upon his first viewing of the film, Guinness wrote in his diary that "It's a pretty staggering film as spectacle and technically brilliant. Exciting, very noisy and warm-hearted. The battle scenes at the end go on for five minutes too long, I feel, and some of the dialogue is excruciating and much of it is lost in noise, but it remains a vivid experience."[17]

Despite these rewards, Guinness soon became unhappy with being identified with the part, and expressed dismay at the fan-following that the Star Wars trilogy attracted. In the DVD commentary of the original Star Wars, director George Lucas says that Guinness was not happy with the script re-write in which Obi-Wan is killed. However, Guinness said in a 1999 interview that it was actually his idea to kill off Obi-Wan, persuading Lucas that it would make him a stronger character, and that Lucas agreed to the idea. Guinness stated in the interview, "What I didn't tell Lucas was that I just couldn't go on speaking those bloody awful, banal lines. I'd had enough of the mumbo jumbo." He went on to say that he "shrivelled up" every time Star Wars was mentioned to him.[18]

In the final volume of the book A Positively Final Appearance (1997), Guinness recounts grudgingly giving an autograph to a young fan who claimed to have watched Star Wars over 100 times, on the condition that the boy promise to stop watching the film, because, as Guinness told him, "this is going to be an ill effect on your life." The fan was stunned at first, but later thanked him (though some sources say it went differently). Guinness is quoted as saying: "'Well,' I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. His mother drew herself up to an immense height. 'What a dreadful thing to say to a child!' she barked, and dragged the poor kid away. Maybe she was right but I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of secondhand, childish banalities."
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:23 AM   #15
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Why didn't the Emperor clone Anikan after he got burned?
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:36 AM   #16
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Why didn't the Emperor clone Anikan after he got burned?
Clones don't have midichlorians or something. Who knows.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:45 AM   #17
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That was because the lightsaber effects were hard to do, and it was a dude in a suit fighting an old guy with imaginary swords.
That's wonderful, but has nothing to do with fixing how it appears in the actual movie.
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Old 08-04-2012, 08:07 AM   #18
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Lack of:
Jarjarport.jpg
I agree ... and they also (thankfully) dont have



And no Midichlorians
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:10 PM   #19
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That is what the special editions are for, if you faggots really need your high definition laser beams to get off.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:54 PM   #20
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He was able to pass midichlorians off to his offspring. I guess Lucas did not put too much thought into the whole subject.
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