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Old 07-31-2012, 05:14 AM   #21
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Whenever I see someone at CMU studying **** like creative writing or philosophy, I have to wonder, what the **** are you doing here? Or like, what are you doing in college in general? Why do people like you exist? Especially if they are guys. If they are women, there is at least the chance that the real degree they are going for is the MRS...
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:22 AM   #22
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Whenever I see someone at CMU studying **** like creative writing or philosophy, I have to wonder, what the **** are you doing here?
Individuals will make their own choices based on what they perceive as the most beneficial to themselves. Who are you to tell them they are wrong about what they want? Why do you hate freedom so much?

Or like, what are you doing in college in general? ... Especially if they are guys. To use government/parental subsidies to party, get drunk and laid by the disproportionately represented gender/sexuality of their choice ...

Why do people like you exist? The above historically has lead to procreation, that being the way that genes are passed on to create more somewhat similar versions of yourself. When you progress through your studies to get to the harder sciences like biology (8th grade?) you will start to understand this concept

If they are women, there is at least the chance that the real degree they are going for is the MRS... What does it say about you when you have more understanding of women's drive to find a mate than men's?
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:43 AM   #23
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Don't regular people need algebra in their daily lives to calculate interest rates?
A bell hop would be better served quoting books at integral times.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:52 AM   #24
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Uh, he's just stating the well-understood fact that there is less societal pressure on women to earn a lot of money, because men aren't attracted to women for their money, whereas the reverse is not true.
You are missing the other half of the equation ...
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:58 AM   #25
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Sadly, it does address everything you said in exactly the proper respect it should be given.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:20 AM   #26
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I'm not understanding this response.
He explained why HC understands that drive for women. He didn't address how HC doesn't understand the drive for men I was referring to.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:35 AM   #27
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Probably because he's not romantically interested in men so he doesn't care what most men want?
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:30 AM   #28
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No, I was referring to the way HC's statement doesn't acknowledge the "party, get drunk and laid" motivation for men, but does acknowledge the "MRS" motivation for women. It seems he's something of a deviant who has gone to college for abnormal reasons
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:23 PM   #29
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No, I was referring to the way HC's statement doesn't acknowledge the "party, get drunk and laid" motivation for men, but does acknowledge the "MRS" motivation for women. It seems he's something of a deviant who has gone to college for abnormal reasons
Truth.

Seriously... coming into Freshman year, the vast majority of guys weren't thinking "Awesome, 4 years to learn as much as I can so I can make tons of money".
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:32 PM   #30
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I don't understand why BA's in Creative Writing exist either.
I presume it's a sad runner up award to the real success of having a work published and making money off of it.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:46 PM   #31
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BA can hurt. It demonstrates a lack of foresight.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:59 PM   #32
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Truth.

Seriously... coming into Freshman year, the vast majority of guys weren't thinking "Awesome, 4 years to learn as much as I can so I can make tons of money".
I wouldn't have put up with living in Pittsburgh for any other reason.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:10 PM   #33
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And the BA can't hurt.
Opportunity cost. Ouch.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:24 PM   #34
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My employers would be far more likely to hire somebody who did well in high school but never attended college than they would be to hire somebody with a BA in something worthless. The former indicates that the job candidate is smart but inexperienced, while the latter indicates that the job candidate is stupid.
QFT

BA's can have fun serving coffee.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:42 PM   #35
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Creative writing majors from CMU, counting only the ones that get jobs, have a median income upon graduation of 30k/year. CMU costs about 50k/year to attend. Median income in America is about 45k/year or so. Only about half of them actually get jobs at all, and of those that do, only five last year (if I recall correctly) got jobs anywhere in the industry.

So the actual mean income of CMU Creative Writing majors is something like $12k-15k/year.

On the other hand, virtually all CS students got jobs and the median income was $80k/year. The program I'm in (although I plan to switch to CS) was $70k/year.
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Old 07-31-2012, 08:47 PM   #36
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So the actual mean income of CMU Creative Writing majors is something like $12k-15k/year.
No way. Even full-time minimum wage will get you $15K. But I guess they don't work full-time, hoping something will open up.
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