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hotsaucemidl 06-28-2012 05:03 PM

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It's true. Since our ancestors didn't keep statistics on how common death from heat exhaustion was, it must not have been a big deal.
Who is getting heat exhaustion walking around their house?

I run in this heat. Regularly. 3 miles at a time.

Our (ALL of us!) paleolithic ancestors were endurance hunters who chased prey for hours in the mid-day heat (yes, mid-day is when they hunted). They did this to survive for millennia. Our bodies are the product of hundreds of thousands of years of tropical adaptation. The few thousand years we have been out of Africa has not changed us sufficiently.

gardeniyas 06-28-2012 05:34 PM

[quote]This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen you post, Asher.

Where did our species come from? You think the 40,000 years that we have been out of Africa has been sufficient for us to adapt structurally to other climates? Nope. Skin complexion of a population changes very rapidly but body type is extremely slow. Nordic people should be short and stocky to adapt to the cold weather but are tall and lanky, evidence of their migration

bypeTeenehalT 06-28-2012 05:50 PM

Sorry Alby. People adapt to the where they live. It doesn't take thousands of years.
Note a past Chicago Marathon run in the heat.
The winner and seemingly not bothered by the heat.
Kenya's Patrick Ivuti won, leaning at the finish line to edge Jaouad Gharib of Morocco by 0.05 seconds. Ethiopia's Berhane Adere rallied to successfully defend her women's title. Those raised in Chicago, had problems.
One runner died, at least 49 were hospitalized and thousands were denied the chance to cross the finish line in the race long known for its brisk fall temperatures and flat terrain. Yes, yes, not exactly scientific, but it doesn't take science to figure out that someone raised in say Alaska would have more problems dealing with the heat than someone raised in Kenya.

budumol 06-28-2012 05:53 PM

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Women in less clothing is never a problem for me.
Remind me, how old is your daughter? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

ffdfriendforurr 06-28-2012 06:03 PM

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Remind me, how old is your daughter? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif
Funny man. Now I have to kill you http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

prearpaccew 06-28-2012 07:09 PM

You also need to be careful that when you can't one type of dengue, the second infection can much worse if it is a different strain. I believe that it's 2 and 4 that are required to be secondary for dengue hemorrhagic fever.

AdipexAdipex 06-28-2012 10:58 PM

I'm okay in 85-90 degree weather, but make it much hotter and I'll be very unhappy to be outside. Also, I find it difficult to sleep if it's too hot in my room. It's gonna start pushing into the triple digits soon here in Fairfax http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/frown.gif. I'm okay with cold weather, but I can't stand the cold weather + wind + drizzle you get in Pittsburgh.

Dvjkefdw 06-29-2012 02:44 AM

Why can't people be sensible and live in a country that's not too hot and not too cold either...?http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/rolleyes.gif

Or live in a property that doesn't need A/C by virtue of the fact that it's cool in the summer and well insulated in the winter?

Anyway, I'm fairly adaptable and am equally at home in the heat or the cold - probably because I don't live in an extreme climate in the first place...http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.gif

Mimsykzr 06-29-2012 03:12 AM

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Only on Apolyton do people deny that Homo Sapiens Sapiens is a tropical animal. I guess people doubt the African origin of our species. Whatever.


And rah... A Kenyan, a Moroccan, and an Ethiopian dominated the Chicago marathon. You know they would have still dominated no matter what the temperature was? East and North Africans dominate long-distance running period.
Sorry, after 40,000 years outside the tropics you are not adapted to living in the tropics. How do you explain the fact the Europeans mostly settled in areas with temperate climates when Europeans controlled the whole world and could settle wherever they pleased? They found surviving easier in temperate climates where they couldn't catch malaria. You are an idiot. Stop generalizing about the entire human species.

MaigicyuNinia 06-29-2012 03:24 AM

I can handle the heat of the summer just fine. That doesn't make me a "tropical animal", retard.

leflyCode 06-29-2012 03:57 AM

And dogs are wolves.

And East Africans do well at distance running for whatever reason but it's not relevant here in terms of adaptation to climate. Running distance has what to do with temperature? Humans have not had enough time out of Africa to adapt enough to different climates. Skin complexion is the quickest to change apparently but body type really hasn't. Like I said, Nordic people are not short and stocky like they should be to adapt to a cold environment. Their body types are still savanna-oriented.

GenManagerS 06-29-2012 04:22 AM

I remembered something about the Incas and lung capacity, so I found this:

Question: Did the native Andean people eat any distinct food which helped them to better cope with the high altitude air that they work in? ~Bob

Answer: I'm not aware of any direct link between the foods eaten in the Andes and an acclimatization to a high altitude. It is my understanding from medical people in Peru today that the average Andean Indian is born with no greater lung capacity than you or I have, but that by the time they die they may have twice the lung capacity you or I have; in other words, their adaptation to altitude entirely occurs after birth and is not genetically transmitted. As far as what effect the foods they eat would have on this, I really don't know. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/inca1/qanda.htm

I think its likely individual adaptations to different climates may be sufficient to explain the differences noted.

Abaronos 06-29-2012 06:22 AM

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I don't guess that I understand why a temperature goal would vary in degrees depending on the season. If 75 is comfortable in winter, why wouldn't it be in summer? As a for instance.

CaseyFan 06-29-2012 08:38 AM

So with a 75, I was right. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/biggrin.gif

gardeniyas 06-29-2012 08:57 AM

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Only on Apolyton do people deny that Homo Sapiens Sapiens is a tropical animal. I guess people doubt the African origin of our species. Whatever.
I don't think any of us here are denying the place of origin for prehistoric Homo Sapiens. We're just saying that that is no reason for people today, to endure discomfort if we have a means to avoid that discomfort.

Zebrabitch 06-29-2012 10:27 AM

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I remembered something about the Incas and lung capacity, so I found this:



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/inca1/qanda.htm

I think its likely individual adaptations to different climates may be sufficient to explain the differences noted.
Not to mention the fact that every long distance runner in the world that's worth their salt goes to sleep in an oxygen tent these days to mimic high altitude training to increase the concentration of red blood cells.

We are a product of our environment and can adapt to it extremely quickly. Alby is a douche. End of story.

Flankrene 06-29-2012 02:51 PM

I generally enjoy the cold better than hot weather, but still only turn the AC on when it's over 35 C. In the winter, I turn off the heating (we have central heating for all the building, but I can turn it off for our flat), and 95% of the time there's at least two windows open for cross-breezes. I rarely wear anything over a T-shirt, but extreme lows over here are in the 0-5 range.


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