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Old 07-14-2012, 02:16 PM   #1
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Default Wilful Blindness: The Humanitarian Left edition
Paranoia: Right wing edition (okay, so that's redundant)
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:02 PM   #2
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"Breaking news: Israel has decided that it is legal for Israel to do whatever Israel wants"
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:49 PM   #3
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I'm sure that whatever Jews exist in Philly are probably overwhelmingly liberal Democrats, yes
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:31 PM   #4
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Regarding his magazine's political orientation, he said: "It is hard to understand a religious person who votes Democrat... Maimonides, the great Jewish philosopher, said there are ten levels of charity, tzedakah. The highest level is making a person self-sufficient, which sounds like what the GOP wants to do. So he's commenting on what he thinks Christians ought to beleive? I've never met a Jewish person who welcomed a Christian telling what he thought Jewish people beleive. Most Jews will tell you that the Christian Old Testament is a poor copy of the original and that Christians get a huge portion of it wrong. Now this guy is telling me what Christians beleive? Did Maimonides take into account the Gospels or the other books of the New Testament into account when he coined his philosophy?
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Old 07-16-2012, 02:45 PM   #5
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I'm sure that whatever Jews exist in Philly are probably overwhelmingly liberal Democrats, yes
You're an idiot. Jews are overwhelmingly democrats.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:23 PM   #6
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You're an idiot. Jews are overwhelmingly democrats.
You're an idiot. Al saw "Jewish World Review" and automatically assumed it was a left wing source.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:01 PM   #7
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You're the idiot because I never assumed that. Don't assume. It's makes an ass out of you but not me.

What a normal person would realize is that a right-wing publication called the Jewish World Review which criticizes the Left is a little ironic because Jews are overwhelmingly leftists. That's what a normal person would get from what I said.

Never dare take a guess at how my brain works or what I'm thinking behind what I say. You ask me what I mean if you don't understand.
You never said anything about irony. And it's not really ironic, you just think based on stereotypes. I guess if you meet a black Republican you say "hurr durr that's ironic".
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:44 PM   #8
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You're an idiot.
Nope. You made a stupid assumption and now you refuse to admit you were wrong
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Old 07-17-2012, 01:12 AM   #9
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Nope. You made a stupid assumption and now you refuse to admit you were wrong
Yes because you can read my mind and know better than me what assumptions I made and what I was thinking.

No one else had a problem understanding but you. Tells me you're the one refusing to admit you were wrong.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:41 PM   #10
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No. Only you took that from that.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:55 PM   #11
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huh? It had EVERYTHING to do with it being Jewish! What the **** is wrong with how your brain works?

Is it the Jew thing that's gotten you worked up?

Let's say we have something called the Black Law Journal and it comes out with staunchly right-wing positions. You don't think people will find it ironic that something so prominently centered around an ethnic group that overwhelmingly supports particular political positions would support the opposite positions? A Black media source hard-charging against liberals when most Blacks are liberals.
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Old 07-17-2012, 07:50 PM   #12
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What the **** is "The West"?

I don't care who you think my "enemies" are.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:16 PM   #13
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The general message of your post was a criticism of the notion that the article in the OP had anything to do with left vs. right. Jews can express right wing viewpoints, and if a quarter of Jews vote Republican, we shouldn't be shocked if it does happen.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:35 PM   #14
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Look, he's a democratically elected leader and thus reflects the will of the Egyptian people.

Neo-conservatives have dreamed of democracy in the Middle East for the past 20 years. That's what Bush said USA was fighting for in Iraq, to achieve democracy in the Middle East. There it is.

USA already had 2 bloody, horribly expensive and decade-long wars in the Middle East, "for freedom" and "for democracy". There you have it, democratic Egypt that is free of foreign influence.

What do the neoconservatives want to achieve, when will they be happy? What is it that you want, exactly?
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:22 AM   #15
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Look, he's a democratically elected leader and thus reflects the will of the Egyptian people.

Neo-conservatives have dreamed of democracy in the Middle East for the past 20 years. That's what Bush said USA was fighting for in Iraq, to achieve democracy in the Middle East. There it is.

USA already had 2 bloody, horribly expensive and decade-long wars in the Middle East, "for freedom" and "for democracy". There you have it, democratic Egypt that is free of foreign influence.

What do the neoconservatives want to achieve, when will they be happy? What is it that you want, exactly?
Who are you and what have you done with VJ?!!
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Old 07-20-2012, 01:55 AM   #16
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What do the neoconservatives want to achieve, when will they be happy? What is it that you want, exactly?
I don't accept the label because I don't think it applies to me. Nor does it apply to the author of the above article. Frankly I question its usefulness and I think you would be better server to reframe your question.
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Old 07-23-2012, 12:26 PM   #17
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I think Zevico has a point.

In Argentina I saw leftists say stuff such as "this revolts in the middle east prove everybody wants more freedom and democracy, that muslims are no different from us"

Leftists just can't conceive that many people may want to live in a country that enforces islamic law and traditions in an authoritarian way. They think love for democracy is natural, universal, inherent.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:35 PM   #18
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The Christian minorities in the middle east, who descend from the people who did not convert to Islam after the arab conquest, generally prefers the rather secular dictator and are much more afraid of the democratically elected islamist leaders.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:00 PM   #19
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The Christian minorities in the middle east, who descend from the people who did not convert to Islam after the arab conquest, generally prefers the rather secular dictator and are much more afraid of the democratically elected islamist leaders.
That's pretty smart of them. They probably know how Obama really is more than the american left too.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:05 PM   #20
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No, what I meant is that leftists saw a lot of relatively modern young guys using twitter and facebook in order to organize demonstrations against a dictator and thought! look, they also want freedom, and democracy, and western modern civil liberties!

Then, the dictator falls, and the people vote for an islamist and not a modern, democratic, liberal person, and the non muslims be them christian minority or a relatively secular person have it worse than under Mubarak, Hussein or Assad.
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