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Old 10-17-2011, 03:23 PM   #1
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I want to share something with you.

This is not meant to stir up a bunch of crap, because this is a hot topic, and we have had threads on it in the past that got pretty intense.

My wife and I went out for an evening together, like a date. We went to a local club to watch some stand up comedy. One of the comics was a woman with a big mouth and a bad attitude. Part of her stage show was to point people out in the crowd and make fun of them. Anytime anyone would walk by she would center them out and try her damnest to embarrass them.

Just so happens that the layout of the club made it a requirement for anyone who wanted a cigarette or the bathroom to walk by the stage to get there.

She wasn't funny from the start, just crass. I'm OK with that, I have one of the sickest sense of humor going, and I can make a trucker blush when I get going.

Anyways, this woman kept on making jokes and relating them to abortions.
It started off with a comment here and a comment there, but after 10 or more minutes, it was just abortion joke after abortion joke, with her pro-choice stance being injected here and there between "jokes".

I was offended, and not laughing at any of her act. My wife was offended and not laughing. We weren't doing anything to the contrary, we just weren't enjoying her show. Just so happens we're seated at a stage side table, in full view of all the patrons.

I decided I had enough of her shitty act, and got up to walk over to a complete stranger to mooch a cigarette, because I ran out. Well, her big mouth and insistance on crowd interaction was her own undoing.

She started asking my wife "Where's he going? Did I say something to offend him?" etc.

My wife didn't know what I was up too (Bumming a smoke) so she spoke to the effect that we don't approve of abortion. Well, didn't she go one about that for the next 30 seconds, about how abortion is not a big deal and no one should be offended.

So after successfully mooching a smoke from a patron, I returned to my front row table, and she is talking directly to me, in a room full of hundreds of beer drinking patrons. I stood there and I said to her: "I didn't leave the table for any other reason than to bum a smoke off someone, but I will tell you that your abortion just disgust me"

"Oh really? Why do they disgust you?"
"Because abortion is murder, and you stand there and joke about mothers murdering their own babies"


Here's the sad part, and I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but pretty much the entire crowd booed me. I was seriously take aback. I never let it shake me, I never backed down.

(I never intended to do that, or say that, or anything, but she insisted on centering me out, so I told her the truth.)

The mouthy bitch tried to continue with her act, but she was shook, and even made multiple comments about how the room had a weird vibe now. Her act was destroyed, and she could not recover. I never left my table, even though I wanted to go have that smoke that I mooched. I sat through her entire act so she could not claim any form of victory by seeing me leave partway through her act.


For the remainder of the night, our table was the laughing stock for the remaining comedians. Everytime they were about to make a joke, they would look at us and make jokes about how they were afraid they were going to offend us. (We were good sports about it, laughing along, etc)
When we went out for a smoke, the other smokers were looking at us sideways, like children in elementary school whispering about the outcast.

No one had the balls to confront me on the issue, or support me on the issue.

I take solice in a couple things:
There was a table beside ours that had four young college girls sitting at it. After the conversation (confrontation) with the comic, they were constantly looking over at my wife and I. I can't help but think that we had some sort of positive impact on their thoughts on the issue.
I also think that chances were good that there was a pregnant woman there that night. I pray that we influenced even just one person in that bar to rethink their position on abortion if they were "pro-choice".


Anyways, I'm not looking for hero cookies, I just wanted to share. To me, it shows how far things have gone, when I get booed by over a hundred people for stating the fact that abortion is murder. The devil has his claws sunk deeply into this world.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:27 PM   #2
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god bless you a hundred, thousand times.

a society that murders its young is a society that does not deserve to exist.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:30 PM   #3
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a society that murders its young is a society that does not deserve to exist. And this won't be fully appreciated until the chickens come home to roost.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:52 PM   #4
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Fuck 'em. You stated your truth. The substance of the truth isn't nearly the lightning rod that is the audacity to actually say it.

People can't stand that, especially in a polarized environment. The comedian cracking on people publicly is a highly polarized environment. Standing up for yourself and calling the "humor" a mockery of what is just and right won't set well with people who showed up and paid up for an escape.

Props to you for stating your truth. Even if I didn't agree with your truth (which I do) I would still think highly of you for actually stating it, especially under those circumstances.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:58 PM   #5
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Yeah, the air was electric for the rest of her set.

It was intense. Thanks guys.
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:17 PM   #6
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Your awesome!!
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:19 PM   #7
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I will have to wait till I get home to see if you posted some jokey image and if you're being sarcastic before I hit the "thanks" button.

No images are coming up, but most image sites are blocked here, so I can't tell if you're being genuine or not.
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:23 PM   #8
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I will have to wait till I get home to see if you posted some jokey image and if you're being sarcastic before I hit the "thanks" button.

No images are coming up, but most image sites are blocked here, so I can't tell if you're being genuine or not.
Just hit the reply with quote button to see the text syntax of any links.

Also, great job standing up in front of everyone and speaking the truth.
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:30 PM   #9
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I didn't see any links to any sarcastic photos when I did Vacuum's trick, so thanks Ximmy!
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:37 PM   #10
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Dancing Baby Approves !

i bet the club owner was sitting in the back watching & taking notes.

there are so many other subjects which a stand-up comic could use.

i bet the next time he auditions comics, he doesn't forget you. i think it went in your favor, even if the crowd vibe was hostile/ immature.

what was the average age of the audience ?


http://tedebear337.tripod.com/sitebu...ures/baby4.gif

does the animated GIF slow down the loading of the page too much ?
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:46 PM   #11
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Every year more babies die from abortion than the Revolutionary, Civil, Korean, Vietnam, Persian Gulf Wars, and World War 1 and 2 combined. After the show, I was waiting in line to pay my tab, and my wife decided to go talk to the comic. (My wife is a little "in your face" when she's drinking, but only in a talky way, not a punchy way {anymore})

I rolled my eyes, and thought "Great". So I waited for about 5 minutes in line, paid my tab, and she was still there. I walked up, and didn't want to talk to the comic, but of course she started talking to me about it, trying to dfend it, trying to justify it, trying to minimize the significance of it, etc.

I told her I am not easy to offend, in fact quite difficult to offend, and I told her that if she has offended me, she has certainly offended other people in the past with this act. Certainly not everyone has the conviction to stand in the middle of a room full of people and tell an actor that their act is morally reprehensible.

I told her I was probably the first person with the balls to say something, and even then, I only said something because her big mouth demanded to know my affairs.

So she continued to blah blah about how it's just a joke, and I said "Well maybe you should change your fucking jokes. I don't even want to be discussing this with you, I have nothing to say to you that I haven't already said. I just want this woman to turn around and leave this place with me." (nodding at my wife)

With that I walked out, hoping my wife would follow. And she did.
(You need to understandmy wife is tenatious when drinking beers, so I honestly wasn't sure if she would leave with me or stay to continue talking to the comic)

So then we went to a local pub and watched an awesoem live band, had a great night...
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Old 10-17-2011, 07:50 PM   #12
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i bet the next time he auditions comics, he doesn't forget you. i think it went in your favor, even if the crowd vibe was hostile/ immature.
The manager was unhappy with me for being a "downer" and he was standing there the whole time that I explained above, when my wife was talking to her at the end of the night. I told him not to take it personal.

what was the average age of the audience ?
All ages. Young to old, as long as they were over 19.
One older couple (Mid 60's) that was sitting behind us stopped me at the end of the night on my way out and the husband said "You're smarter than you look".

Whatever that means. I suppose he secretly approved of my stance and actions.
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:05 PM   #13
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a lot of today's 'comedy' passes for just insulting people. joy behar, for example, is supposedly a famous 'comic.' or kathy griffin. take your pic. all either of them do, really, is insult people whose politics they disagree with, and then it's 'funny.'
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Old 10-17-2011, 08:08 PM   #14
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You're totally right Chad. Especially the novice crop. Ridicule is the flavour of the decade, but I will say the other comics were good, funny, witty and talented. (But not super-star funny)
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:03 PM   #15
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I hate comics who use people in the audience for their humor. It really puts people on the spot. I'm glad you told her exactly what you were thinking. I hope I would do the same in that situation.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:15 PM   #16
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in my experience audience participation is never a good thing. You have no control over what is going to come your way. Hopefully this comic learned this lesson if nothing else. It's a bummer to have to kill the vibe but it sounds like a vibe that needed aborting.

A comic doesn't need to be PC when making their jokes but the audience has to be PC and listen to them. Something wrong with that IMO. Sounds like you carried a bit of that audiences bad vibe home with you. Shrug it off. Your work there is done and you done good.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:17 PM   #17
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I hate comics who use people in the audience for their humor. It really puts people on the spot. I'm glad you told her exactly what you were thinking. I hope I would do the same in that situation.
Me, too. If I go see a comic live, I can't sit anywhere near the stage, becuase I don't want them to talk to me or about me. I want to be an observer, not a participant.

Good for you, Awoke, for standing up for what you believe in.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:20 AM   #18
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thanks for the read awoke and i glad you toke a stand . i also am very hard haeded and never back down right are wrong it just me . if i would of been there i would of got up and took a stand with you be good . we need more people to take a stand an not want to be the same as everyone else in the room that what gets me .
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:34 AM   #19
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The devil has his claws sunk deeply into this world.
Oh, Awoke ! Ugh ! What a situation to be in ! So glad that you stood up for the unborn. They need to be heard through people like you who aren't afraid to stand up for what is right.

The devil does have his claws dug in deep. People have no respect for the sanctity of life.

Until women stop spreading their legs to any man that looks at them
and until every man stops sticking that thing wherever he feels like it and no one has any respect for proper intimate relations then abortion will still be rampant.

I know so many women that have had abortions and every single last one of them has some kind of a mental issue.
They never get over what they've done. Ever.

They're not a mother without a baby. They're a mother with a dead/murdered baby who is responsible for killing it .

Keep up the good fight !
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:37 AM   #20
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It's a sad state of affairs man, nothing else I can say.

Doing what you did is the right thing to do and I commend you for it.
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