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**irresseni** · 05-10-2012, 12:20 AM

I'd still say we'd be best off with a Platonic oligarchy of experts. The problem is such dictatorships tend to become corrupt and murdering... maybe a society ruled by a superintelligent AI will the answer? Elok?

**Pharmadryg** · 05-10-2012, 12:30 AM

If I can be one of the experts, I think you've got a great idea.

PhD's only.

**irrascaft** · 05-10-2012, 12:40 AM

Dick Cheney is awesome

Kentonio knows nothing, but we already knew that.

**excholza** · 05-10-2012, 12:51 AM

Ya'll are ignoring the important issue here: what are Biden's chances of being on the ticket again after forcing Obama to make this announcement? I imagine they're not good; Obama can't be happy about Joe's big mouth potentially jeopardizing his re-election.

**Indidockobeni** · 05-10-2012, 12:52 AM

Ya'll are ignoring the important issue here: what are Biden's chances of being on the ticket again after forcing Obama to make this announcement? I imagine they're not good; Obama can't be happy about Joe's big mouth potentially jeopardizing his re-election.

Joe's big mouth was hardly a secret before he was initially picked for VP. And this is hardly the first dumb thing Biden has done. And I would think that forcing Biden off the ticket would be a bigger embarrassment to the administration than just keeping him locked up and doing damage control whenever they accidentally let him talk in public.

**Unlopssesuj** · 05-10-2012, 12:54 AM

The two of you should go accidental shotgun dueling together.

FTFY

**Lyikmcmb** · 05-10-2012, 12:55 AM

Um, I think that was the joke and you just killed it. You monster.

I know it was the joke. Just trying to establish to kentonio that I don't hold it against dick cheney that he has a twitchy trigger finger.

**Dodoerabe** · 05-10-2012, 12:59 AM

Brave move going into the general election (ignoring his flip flopping on the issue and kind of being pressured into it by Biden's big mouth).

Not so brave as you might think. Recent polling shows gay marriage is supported by a small majority of Americans, and a significant majority of Independents. It is a very savvy move, putting Romney on the spot and giving Obama an advantage with the political center.

**geniusxs81** · 05-10-2012, 01:00 AM

I know it was the joke. Just trying to establish to kentonio that I don't hold it against dick cheney that he has a twitchy trigger finger.

The sad thing is that the guy apologized for getting shot in the face.

**cargo_brad** · 05-10-2012, 01:01 AM

Are you asking me about superintelligent AI, or suggesting I run society? If the former, I suggest turning to Lori, or to Loin if Lori gets an obvious boner from discussing it. If the latter, there's no way I'm desperate enough to take THAT job.

oops. I meant Lori but wrote Elok.

**peakyesno** · 05-10-2012, 01:03 AM

So he's a liar? Thanks.

Jesus ****ing Christ, Al.

Really?

He's a ****ing politician, of course he's a liar.

Pro-tip: they all lie. Every. ****ing. One.

Second pro-tip: EVERYONE LIES. You, me, your mom, the Pope, everyone.

**Mmccqrtb** · 05-10-2012, 01:04 AM

It wasn't savvy, dude; Biden and the resulting press/donor criticism of Obama's ridiculous "evolving views" forced his hand. It may end up being a net positive politically, but that's certainly not clear and this wasn't a proactive announcement on the President's part to put Romney on the spot.

Meh. I'm not convinced Biden had that much to do with it. Polling in favor of gay marriage just tipped over the 50% mark in the past few months; now that it has public support, and he has a clear-cut opponent, it seems like as good a time as any to state his true position.

**eEwbYjOH** · 05-10-2012, 01:10 AM

Meh. I'm not convinced Biden had that much to do with it.

It seems to be the consensus view amongst the political commentariat. For example...

President Obama endorsed same-sex marriage Wednesday, capping days of frenzied speculation about his views and intensifying pressure from gay campaign donors that began with surprising comments on the issue over the weekend by Vice President Biden.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...WDU_story.html

**isogeople** · 05-10-2012, 01:19 AM

Are you asking me about superintelligent AI, or suggesting I run society? If the former, I suggest turning to Lori, or to Loin if Lori gets an obvious boner from discussing it. If the latter, there's no way I'm desperate enough to take THAT job.

My dick is not quite so in the clouds as the rest of me.

**CDCL7WKJ** · 05-10-2012, 01:27 AM

Won't matter. Obama's got that.

Hell, Obama giving gay marriage legitimacy might even change the minds of a lot of Blacks on this issue. Obama probably trumps religious upbringing.

Nothing to argue with here. To think this will cost Obama the AA vote is lunacy.

05-10-2012, 12:20 AM	#21
irresseni Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	I'd still say we'd be best off with a Platonic oligarchy of experts. The problem is such dictatorships tend to become corrupt and murdering... maybe a society ruled by a superintelligent AI will the answer? Elok? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 12:30 AM	#22
Pharmadryg Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	If I can be one of the experts, I think you've got a great idea. PhD's only. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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irrascaft Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	Dick Cheney is awesome Kentonio knows nothing, but we already knew that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 12:51 AM	#24
excholza Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 376 Senior Member	Ya'll are ignoring the important issue here: what are Biden's chances of being on the ticket again after forcing Obama to make this announcement? I imagine they're not good; Obama can't be happy about Joe's big mouth potentially jeopardizing his re-election. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 12:52 AM	#25
Indidockobeni Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 418 Senior Member	Ya'll are ignoring the important issue here: what are Biden's chances of being on the ticket again after forcing Obama to make this announcement? I imagine they're not good; Obama can't be happy about Joe's big mouth potentially jeopardizing his re-election. Joe's big mouth was hardly a secret before he was initially picked for VP. And this is hardly the first dumb thing Biden has done. And I would think that forcing Biden off the ticket would be a bigger embarrassment to the administration than just keeping him locked up and doing damage control whenever they accidentally let him talk in public. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 12:54 AM	#26
Unlopssesuj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	The two of you should go accidental shotgun dueling together. FTFY Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 12:55 AM	#27
Lyikmcmb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	Um, I think that was the joke and you just killed it. You monster. I know it was the joke. Just trying to establish to kentonio that I don't hold it against dick cheney that he has a twitchy trigger finger. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 12:59 AM	#28
Dodoerabe Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 388 Senior Member	Brave move going into the general election (ignoring his flip flopping on the issue and kind of being pressured into it by Biden's big mouth). Not so brave as you might think. Recent polling shows gay marriage is supported by a small majority of Americans, and a significant majority of Independents. It is a very savvy move, putting Romney on the spot and giving Obama an advantage with the political center. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 01:00 AM	#29
geniusxs81 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	I know it was the joke. Just trying to establish to kentonio that I don't hold it against dick cheney that he has a twitchy trigger finger. The sad thing is that the guy apologized for getting shot in the face. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 01:01 AM	#30
cargo_brad Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	Are you asking me about superintelligent AI, or suggesting I run society? If the former, I suggest turning to Lori, or to Loin if Lori gets an obvious boner from discussing it. If the latter, there's no way I'm desperate enough to take THAT job. oops. I meant Lori but wrote Elok. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 01:03 AM	#31
peakyesno Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	So he's a liar? Thanks. Jesus **ing Christ, Al. Really? He's a ing politician, of course he's a liar. Pro-tip: they all lie. Every. **ing. One. Second pro-tip: EVERYONE LIES. You, me, your mom, the Pope, everyone. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 01:04 AM	#32
Mmccqrtb Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 365 Senior Member	It wasn't savvy, dude; Biden and the resulting press/donor criticism of Obama's ridiculous "evolving views" forced his hand. It may end up being a net positive politically, but that's certainly not clear and this wasn't a proactive announcement on the President's part to put Romney on the spot. Meh. I'm not convinced Biden had that much to do with it. Polling in favor of gay marriage just tipped over the 50% mark in the past few months; now that it has public support, and he has a clear-cut opponent, it seems like as good a time as any to state his true position. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 01:10 AM	#33
eEwbYjOH Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 455 Senior Member	Meh. I'm not convinced Biden had that much to do with it. It seems to be the consensus view amongst the political commentariat. For example... President Obama endorsed same-sex marriage Wednesday, capping days of frenzied speculation about his views and intensifying pressure from gay campaign donors that began with surprising comments on the issue over the weekend by Vice President Biden. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...WDU_story.html Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 01:19 AM	#34
isogeople Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Are you asking me about superintelligent AI, or suggesting I run society? If the former, I suggest turning to Lori, or to Loin if Lori gets an obvious boner from discussing it. If the latter, there's no way I'm desperate enough to take THAT job. My dick is not quite so in the clouds as the rest of me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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05-10-2012, 01:27 AM	#35
CDCL7WKJ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 472 Senior Member	Won't matter. Obama's got that. Hell, Obama giving gay marriage legitimacy might even change the minds of a lot of Blacks on this issue. Obama probably trumps religious upbringing. Nothing to argue with here. To think this will cost Obama the AA vote is lunacy. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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