[Bobdilan]

No. Don't back down. You had him by the balls. Will doesn't even know who Ayn Rand is. And look what our most respected forefather had to say on the matter:

"William Perdikakis is a lying, sorry sack of sh*t." - Thomas Jefferson, 1805, Letter to Abigail C. Durrow, Richmond, Virginia

I may be a lot of things, but I am not a liar. Ok, Mr. D3 Master.

[awagsFare]

I may be a lot of things, but I am not a liar. Ok, Mr. D3 Master.

"Verily, I'll tell you friend, not only is young master Sparafucil a gentleman and a scholar, but his Demon hunter will wreck your ****." - Thomas Paine, 1775

[moopogyOvenny]

If it was an all white school they wouldnt need IDs

[Kilsimpaile]

If it was an all white school they wouldnt need IDs

It's not my fault non whites all look the same.[/sarcasm]

I try not to be racist, but young Latino and black males don't have statistics working in their favor. There are clearly socio-economic reasons for some of this, but the reality is that we have to be prejudice because life is short and not making logical assumptions when the outcome could harm you is just being naive.

[AOE6q4bu]

This is a completely ridiculous move, and it's holding the door open for further erosion of privacy rights, that people think such things could ever be a good idea is simply disgusting and cowardly.


Some people are afraid of every and anything.

[12Cickprior]

It is a dumb move. It is 100% about money.
If they actually wanted to improve the school and keep kids in class, they would do things that would want them to be there.


I wonder what kind of info is on those chips. It is usually too much info. Would be awesome if there are some smart geek kids there that own the system.

[Squeernemergo]

Makes them sound like Ayn Rand.

Can you draw me a picture explaining that one?

time to read up:

http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Shrugged...atlas+shrugged

[Forex Autopilot]

This whole "invasions of privacy" thing is BS. They are schoolchildren at school; they don't get to have privacy, as far as their location is concerned. As for the school being able to track them outside of school, don't be silly. How any they going to do that?

[yespkorg]

Paine was referring to English government and the ancien regime in France. In a democracy, the people are the government. This anti-government bullcrap is a modern invention.

Because certainly Jefferson would have supported an oppressive government that was first voted into power...

But I don't need to speak of facts. Your attempts to sound erudite are utterly defeated by your overwhelming desire to do so.

[Dyslermergerb]

I think that long term this will indoctrinate people to become comfortable with the idea of RFID everywhere. Being the challenge accepted kind of dude I am, I want this tech - but not at the expense of indoctrinating our youths to grow accustomed to using it always.

I wonder what kind of info is on those chips. It is usually too much info. Would be awesome if there are some smart geek kids there that own the system.

Problem is, you'd have those really "smart geek kids" that think they own the system getting involved with savant hellion types who really do own the system - many lulz would ensue and tears would be shed as the "smart geek kids" became keen on suicide.

[JoZertekAdv]

Because certainly Jefferson would have supported an oppressive government that was first voted into power... But I don't need to speak of facts. Your attempts to sound erudite are utterly defeated by your overwhelming desire to do so.

As I recall, you've posted several spurious quotations from Founding Fathers on here.

And yes, we all know Jefferson was a closet Randian. You must have really squandered your liberal arts education.

Your post quality has really declined of late, Gnius.

[riverakathy]

Your post quality has really declined of late

[AnetTeilor]

Pot meet kettle

Gimme a break. I had some choice material in this thread.

[Unoloknovagog]

This whole "invasions of privacy" thing is BS. They are schoolchildren at school; they don't get to have privacy, as far as their location is concerned. As for the school being able to track them outside of school, don't be silly. How any they going to do that?

I don't think they would necessarily stop transmitting outside of school. It's open to abuse on by all kinds of people. Whether it's the students giving the tags to friends before disapperaing, the wrong staff getting access to kids whereabouts, other people being able to track kids outside to school. It just sounds like a way for someone to make money at the expense of others. If every school did this, a whole generation would be tracked. Do you think there might be a time when these tags are never removed?

[LeaderBiz]

I don't think they would necessarily stop transmitting outside of school.

If you watched the video, you'd have seen that is exactly what they do. You leave the building, you're off their radar.

I don't see an issue with students locations being tracked whilst on school premises, lots of large corporations have policies that mean staff have to wear name-tags, it's just a step forward from that. It's also a good way to almost instantly tell if there is a person on the premises who should not be there. The only thing i'd find annoying is the inconvenience of having that huge thing round my neck all day.

[gluckmeea]

If you watched the video, you'd have seen that is exactly what they do. You leave the building, you're off their radar.

I don't see an issue with students locations being tracked whilst on school premises, lots of large corporations have policies that mean staff have to wear name-tags, it's just a step forward from that. It's also a good way to almost instantly tell if there is a person on the premises who should not be there. The only thing i'd find annoying is the inconvenience of having that huge thing round my neck all day.

I did watch the video. He says they don't track them off campus, but that doesn't stop them from being tracked off campus does it?

[Eromereorybig]

I think that long term this will indoctrinate people to become comfortable with the idea of RFID everywhere. Being the challenge accepted kind of dude I am, I want this tech - but not at the expense of indoctrinating our youths to grow accustomed to using it always.

Pretty much this, except I don't really want the tech, but even less do I want people accepting such things.

We as a species have a bad track record with stuff like that though.

[agracias]

I don't think they would necessarily stop transmitting outside of school. It's open to abuse on by all kinds of people. Whether it's the students giving the tags to friends before disapperaing, the wrong staff getting access to kids whereabouts, other people being able to track kids outside to school. It just sounds like a way for someone to make money at the expense of others. If every school did this, a whole generation would be tracked. Do you think there might be a time when these tags are never removed?

Plus stuff that is out there to "protect" can and does get turned around and used for improper doings.

This is totally different, but remember the laptop sh/t that went down at some school.

They had the webcam remote software on all laptops to find the laptops if they got lost or stolen. But then come to find out they recorded the kids when they were outside of school.
Worth it to lose a laptop or two instead of spying on students at home. If $$ was an issue, wouldn't have bought Apple laptops. Get cheap $250 Window laptops.


In a school that could potentially be a horrible school if kids are not going to class because it sucks, it may not be long until someone gets raped because of how easy this new system would make it for a predator.
I'd rather not have that system so the school can hopefully profit $1.5million a year by getting kids in class if it helps prevent just one person from being taken advantage of.
Im sure there was and still is a better idea to use that $500,000 on to improve attendence to make that $1.5million in aid. $500,000 that would actually improve the school and make it better.
I wouldn't be shocked if a predator heavily pushed for this new system or is even the principal.

[Britiobby]

Yeah i remember the laptops that had their webcam set up like CCTV. And yeah I can imagine the wrong people being involved with this system. Whether it's implementing or using it. A bit like pedo's and perverts finding work with the TSA.

[soydaykam]

I don't think they would necessarily stop transmitting outside of school. It's open to abuse on by all kinds of people. Whether it's the students giving the tags to friends before disapperaing, the wrong staff getting access to kids whereabouts, other people being able to track kids outside to school. It just sounds like a way for someone to make money at the expense of others. If every school did this, a whole generation would be tracked. Do you think there might be a time when these tags are never removed?

RFID chips are generally passive devices, so unless the school is going to install readers throughout the area.....