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Old 08-26-2012, 05:33 AM   #41
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What BS. How else would you design a touch-screen-only phone? Make it 100% round? Make it triangle? >_>
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:58 AM   #42
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NEONODE havent said anything as yet - and they hold the grand daddy of them all - slide to unlock patent.
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:52 AM   #43
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Here is an interesting quote from one of the juror's in the case:
"Well, there were several. The e-mails that went back and forth from Samsung execs about the Apple features that they should incorporate into their devices was pretty damning to me. And also, on the last day, they showed the pictures of the phones that Samsung made before the iPhone came out and ones that they made after the iPhone came out. Some of the Samsung executives they presented on video [testimony] from Korea -- I thought they were dodging the questions. They didn't answer one of them. They didn't help their cause."
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:17 AM   #44
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If anyone reads the ruling properly they would realise that that Apple lost on the trade dress infringement. Which is where they should have won. Basically the ruling says that Samsung did not copy the iPhone external design.
Where Apple won is for idiotic things like bounce back and double tap to zoom etc. Which is ridiculous.

The ruling should have been the other way round.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:31 PM   #45
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Engadget editor

"Apple (and to be fair, it's not alone) has ushered in a new era though, where minute details, that really aren't new innovations, are being patented. More frustratingly, the patents are being granted. And this is where I feel the real problem lies. Apple had the legal right to protect something, it did, and won. Fine. What is more galling is that the jurors seem to have missed an opportunity to question the validity (and by proxy, value) of these patents, and they didn't. They handed Apple the right to romp ever forward down this self-destructive path, the end of which is good for no one. Not even Apple. Don't let it become Appl€?"

110% agreed. Apple won and fairly so. Next we should sue the patent office...
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Old 08-26-2012, 03:19 PM   #46
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Such an ignorant statement. This is just the first step in the overall legal process. This isn't even close to over with all the appeals that will be filed. The final results probably wont come about for another few years.
my point, in good legal system the court would send that case back to the sender sooner without wasting money and time
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Old 08-26-2012, 05:25 PM   #47
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Let me reiterate this point, IT IS NOT OVER. There will be countless appeals on every minute detail of this case. Samsung will appeal everything from the actual ruling to the admission of evidence. This case will drag on for another two to three years. Honestly, sometimes you people amaze me with your daftness.
You are completely missing his point. He wasn't analysing the ruling, but pointing out why it could seem corrupt.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:06 PM   #48
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You are completely missing his point. He wasn't analysing the ruling, but pointing out why it could seem corrupt.
And the EU's ruling on Microsoft, years back, appears the same way.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:11 PM   #49
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And the EU's ruling on Microsoft, years back, appears the same way.
Jesus! It wasn't an attack on America! Are you completely paranoid?
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:23 PM   #50
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Jesus! It wasn't an attack on America! Are you completely paranoid?
It was a mere analysis. You seem to be the one that wants it to be more.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:29 PM   #51
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It was a mere analysis. You seem to be the one that wants it to be more.
So let me get this straight....someone says that it appears corrupt, you mis-read it as they think it's over, someone points out that they meant it seems corrupt and your immediate response is to drag up the last time a US tech company was in an EU court.

You're right, it obviously was a mere analysis.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:31 AM   #52
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Spot the odd one out.

Courts

Korea = Both in the wrong, both pay up
UK = Samsung did not copy Apple
US = Samsung pay Apple $1 billion
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:41 AM   #53
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Spot the odd one out.

Courts

Korea = Both in the wrong, both pay up
UK = Samsung did not copy Apple
US = Samsung pay Apple $1 billion
They all reached different conclusions. If you were trying to make a point you failed.
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:49 AM   #54
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They all reached different conclusions. If you were trying to make a point you failed.
If you say so, I thought it was funny.

Almost makes me proud to be from the UK.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:22 AM   #55
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They all reached different conclusions. If you were trying to make a point you failed.
Actually, he has a point. Patents are subjective.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:23 AM   #56
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If you say so, I thought it was funny.

Almost makes me proud to be from the UK.
Almost.
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Old 08-27-2012, 01:35 AM   #57
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...12082510525390

Based on quick read, it's basicly impossible that the jurys decision will hold
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:26 AM   #58
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http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?s...12082510525390

Based on quick read, it's basicly impossible that the jurys decision will hold
Interesting read, guess we still have plenty of back and forth ahead of us.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:25 AM   #59
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Fun fact: The phone on the left wasn't deemed to infringe anything, this however was:
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:54 AM   #60
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It wasn't just about the looks and shape. Thought I might give you a hint.
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