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RobsShow 08-25-2012 06:17 AM

Jury Reaches Verdict in Apple vs. Samsung Trial
 
Keeping watching this page, awaiting the result as I type.

According to CNET, the jury has reached a verdict in the Apple vs. Samsung trial after three days of deliberations. The three-week trial has resulted in interesting testimony and evidence from both sides, including looks at early iPhone and iPad prototypes, Apple and Samsung mobile device sales numbers in the U.S., and an internal Samsung memo that examined what the company needed to change in its Galaxy line of smartphones to compete with the iPhone.

The 9-person jury was asked to fill out a 20-page jury form with more than 700 questions across 33 groups. They were required to come to an unanimous decision on each question and court-watchers didn't expect a verdict until at least next week. The decision will be announced later this afternoon.

MacRumors will update this page as more information is released. http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/24/...samsung-trial/

doxinwasido 08-25-2012 07:09 AM

Samsung found guilty of infringing almost every Apple patent. They have been fined over $1 Billion! Still awaiting the verdict on Apples infringement of their patents.

Erunsenef 08-25-2012 07:22 AM

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Samsung found guilty of infringing almost every Apple patent. They have been fined over $1 Billion! Still awaiting the verdict on Apples infringement of their patents.
Score one for americA! stopping south korea from taking over the world :3

BV6lwvXf 08-25-2012 07:25 AM

Have not read the details, but did they really support Apple in the design copy? Please... so nobody is allowed a smoother corner rectangle shape? Details please.

FjFHQLJQ 08-25-2012 07:30 AM

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Have not read the details, but did they really support Apple in the design copy? Please... so nobody is allowed a smoother corner rectangle shape? Details please.
Yeah so that sounds pretty dumb.

CsFLhGNp 08-25-2012 07:31 AM

I am a bit surprised it went so much in Apple's favour, as most of the other cases up til now seemed to be siding with Samsung. I personally don't agree with the overall war against Android as competition is always good, but Samsung always seemed to verging on taking the piss with copying Apple's products IMO.

GoveMoony 08-25-2012 07:33 AM

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Have not read the details, but did they really support Apple in the design copy? Please... so nobody is allowed a smoother corner rectangle shape? Details please.
http://www.lasical.com/wp-content/up...s_iphone_4.jpg

elton 08-25-2012 07:39 AM

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Have not read the details, but did they really support Apple in the design copy? Please... so nobody is allowed a smoother corner rectangle shape? Details please.
Yeah so that sounds pretty dumb.

stoneeZef 08-25-2012 07:51 AM

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Yeah so that sounds pretty dumb.
It sounds dumb because of the way it was phrased. You can make anything sound dumb phrasing like that.

If you look at the evidence, you'll see that Samsung basically changed their design to look more like the iPhone. Not just making a rectangle (which was never the issue) but even small things like the red button to hang up a call. On the original Samsung Android GUI, it was small and next to other buttons with similar functions. The iPhone has one large button that's impossible to miss with even a huge thumb. Internal Samsung memos showed the GUIs side by side, with a note, from the designer, that stated literally 'get rid of clutter of small buttons, simplify and create one large button'. Result... identical, pixel for pixel to the iPhone one.

There are literally 100's of examples like this.

I am shocked Apple won this given the ridicule they have received, but for once, creativity is recognized. Nothing is obvious until someone does it. The wheel is obvious, but it still took 100,000 years to 'invent' (discover).

WFSdZuP3 08-25-2012 08:13 AM

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It sounds dumb because of the way it was phrased. You can make anything sound dumb phrasing like that.

If you look at the evidence, you'll see that Samsung basically changed their design to look more like the iPhone. Not just making a rectangle (which was never the issue) but even small things like the red button to hang up a call. On the original Samsung Android GUI, it was small and next to other buttons with similar functions. The iPhone has one large button that's impossible to miss with even a huge thumb. Internal Samsung memos showed the GUIs side by side, with a note, from the designer, that stated literally 'get rid of clutter of small buttons, simplify and create one large button'. Result... identical, pixel for pixel to the iPhone one.

There are literally 100's of examples like this.

I am shocked Apple won this given the ridicule they have received, but for once, creativity is recognized. Nothing is obvious until someone does it. The wheel is obvious, but it still took 100,000 years to 'invent' (discover).
I don't think it's a win for "creativity", and I do not see what is wrong with having some standardization between various platforms.

secondmertg 08-25-2012 08:32 AM

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I don't think it's a win for "creativity", and I do not see what is wrong with having some standardization between various platforms.
surprisingly, all of my vehicles have keys and ignitions that look the same... all telephones (real, not cell) have a square grid of numbers that is 3 x 4, and every cell phone I have had uses the color red to end a call and green to dial it. This is absurd. Cellphones all surprisingly look like cellphones.

larentont 08-25-2012 08:57 AM

I wonder if this is going to effect the consumer though? Like jacked up prices on memory, phones, tablets etc.

UFJon 08-25-2012 09:29 AM

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I wonder if this is going to effect the consumer though? Like jacked up prices on memory, phones, tablets etc.
Well Apple is heavily reliant on Samsung for components like displays and memory, so it will be interesting to see what happens with this.

DoctorBeny 08-25-2012 01:02 PM

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Samsung found guilty of infringing almost every Apple patent. They have been fined over $1 Billion! Still awaiting the verdict on Apples infringement of their patents.
7 patents. I think they have more.

Anyway, good verdict. Just wished Apple would have gotten judgment on it's patent infridgments. But it's Apple's home court. See what happened in South Korea.

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Well Apple is heavily reliant on Samsung for components like displays and memory, so it will be interesting to see what happens with this.
It's all about slashing the prices of components.

TNOULbr2 08-25-2012 02:53 PM

That phone was excluded from the ruling dummy!

(Oh yeah, I got to call a Mod "dummy") http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...es/tongue1.gif

lollypopz 08-25-2012 06:14 PM

don't tell me they are both snivelling children with too much money who should suck it up and get on with their lives ?

halyshitzob 08-25-2012 08:14 PM

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This is absurd. Cellphones all surprisingly look like cellphones.
I always thought this was an amusing picture. Before and after iPhone:

http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna...fteriphone.jpg

Kiariitf 08-25-2012 08:43 PM

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I always thought this was an amusing picture. Before and after iPhone:

http://cultofmac.cultofmaccom.netdna...fteriphone.jpg
You only have to look at cars, televisions, fridges, freezers, washing machines and a billion other inventions to know that once we hit on a good design, we stick with it. I can't really see a triangular smartphone taking off.

29clepayJainync 08-25-2012 08:44 PM

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I always thought this was an amusing picture. Before and after iPhone:
Hahaha yeah imagine that, a touchscreen phone needing more screen estate than a keyed phone

http://cdecas.free.fr/computers/pocket/images/simon.jpg

http://www.pocketnow.com/html/portal...Q/DSCN3125.jpg

http://cdecas.free.fr/computers/pock.../sharpmcg1.jpg

Omg, two of them even have red hang up buttons!

stoneeZef 08-25-2012 09:11 PM

It's all a bit stupid isn't it. Look at Tv's, maybe Sony can sue Apple for stealing the rectangle with round edges design?


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