[chipkluchi]

Didn't we go over this already?

There is a tree in my front yard. Both times this year severe weather has pulled off branches from the tree and sent them through the service lines in front of my home. The snow in October was the first time and this time was microcell in my neighborhood.

Wait, so let me get this strait: you don't trim tree branches in preparation for storms?

[xanaxnewtrader]

Wait, so let me get this strait: you don't trim tree branches in preparation for storms?

ha!

I am just going to assume that you have never seen a tree, nor priced out the cost of trimming.

It is a BIG mother****er, dude. There is no predicting which -if any- will break. In fact, this Friday's incident was a branch from the side of the tree opposite my service lines.

And... there was no warning for this storm.

[DrCeshing]

ha!

I am just going to assume that you have never seen a tree, nor priced out the cost of trimming.

It is a BIG mother****er, dude. There is no predicting which -if any- will break. In fact, this Friday's incident was a branch from the side of the tree opposite my service lines.

And... there was no warning for this storm.

We had to pay to remove two giant trees from our backyard because neighbors complained they were too close to the fence and could be a threat in a storm. And we've since removed half of the large branches on our giant oak that hangs over our house.

Buy a chainsaw and ladder, you lazy sod.

[TriamiCaw]

Are you going to edit your spelling error? I am worried.

[colmedindustry]

iceman,

If I would have known on Tuesday (the last time that I logged on my PC) that a microcell would be over my place on Friday, I would certainly have changed it to offline mode. But, unfortunately, I did not think of it, some update was flagged and I was stuck in the loop described above.

If you look at the very first step in the instructions that you provided "Start Steam in online mode" - Not happening.

Ok, i'm confused here. There was an update flagged? So did the client download it on tuesday, but you hadn't restarted Steam then?

[AutocadOemM]

Ok, i'm confused here. There was an update flagged? So did the client download it on tuesday, but you hadn't restarted Steam then?

I am confused too.

I update Steam whenever it asks, (it only takes a few seconds). I really could not tell you why it happened. But I will say that both times the same bullshit happened as I described in the OP.

Could it be bad luck that updates were flagged both times BEFORE shutting down? Does this happen every time?

You know what? I will try it again tonight by unplugging my modem to emulate the same experience. You got my curious.

[Angelinaaiiiiiiiii]

Are you going to edit your spelling error? I am worried.

Consider that one a freebie.

Ok, i'm confused here. There was an update flagged? So did the client download it on tuesday, but you hadn't restarted Steam then?

While I appreciate you trying to help Will, at this point, it's abundantly clear the problem lies not with Steam but with his refusal to pay illegal immigrants to maintain his property.

[Qwjyrgij]

Here's a thread or two that might be of interest:


According to the posters, the issue is with how Windows handles Steam while shutting down. Steam I guess takes some time neatly packing up its data and putting the chairs on the table before locking up, but Windows is impatient and won't give it the time it needs, simply killing the process instead. When it starts up again, it sees the mess left behind the previous night and tries to clean up, but doing so requires an internet connection so it can download whatever files are suspect or recheck and corrupted data. If it can't, it exits. Sounds promising, i always shutdown Steam manually, especially since the Steam Cloud uploads can sometimes take a minute or two to complete, so i never leave it running when i shutdown windows, mainly because Win7 shuts down so fast and doesn't give Steam time to do its thing. Maybe that's the difference?

[statistica]

Well, I never manually shut down Steam. It starts with Windows and ends with it too. I will add the manual shut down to my testing next time I get a chance.

Interesting find. Really, really poor design on Valve's side if that is the case.

--- Post Update ---

While I appreciate you trying to help Will, at this point, it's abundantly clear the problem lies not with Steam but with his refusal to pay illegal immigrants to maintain his property.

10/10 - I laughed out loud. Still laughing actually, ha!

[antiggill]

Well, I never manually shut down Steam. It starts with Windows and ends with it too. I will add the manual shut down to my testing next time I get a chance.

Interesting find. Really, really poor design on Valve's side if that is the case.

Right, nothing to do with Windows killing all processes regardless of what's going on? FWIW OS X does something similar, although the difference is that all processes are stored as an image so when you reboot, everything is recovered in exactly the state it was shut down in.

[quack!]

Right, nothing to do with Windows killing all processes regardless of what's going on? FWIW OS X does something similar, although the difference is that all processes are stored as an image so when you reboot, everything is recovered in exactly the state it was shut down in.

Think about it this way...

When you say SHUT DOWN, the computer should shut down, not wait for Steam to finishing flagging itself for updates. If the process to shutdown was softer, selecting shut down would do nothing most of the time.

I want that **** to listen to me. Shut the **** down you piece of **** DRMware.

[AliceFromHouston]

I set my steam account to off-line most of the time.

[johnstylet]

I set my steam account to off-line most of the time.

But that's just because tapping into your cell-mate's wifi required back-end payments, which for health reasons you have to limit to 6 per night, right?

[MeverikcNils]

I hate Steam bullsh!t and always will. Invasive BS DRM enforcement. I hope Steam dies or changes their ways.

Windows Live games has a much more eloquent solution.

Death to Steam.

[Sniliabiz]

I hate Steam bullsh!t and always will. Invasive BS DRM enforcement. I hope Steam dies or changes their ways.

Windows Live games has a much more eloquent solution.

Death to Steam.

lolwut

You've got to be kidding, preferring Games for Windows Live over Steam...

[byncnombmub]

lolwut

You've got to be kidding, preferring Games for Windows Live over Steam...

Not at all. When I buy a DVD and I can't install the game and play right away I get pissed. I didn't buy steam, I bought a game. One day you will understand how your freedom is being compromised.

[ptmQqoxw]

Not at all. When I buy a DVD and I can't install the game and play right away I get pissed. I didn't buy steam, I bought a game. One day you will understand how your freedom is being compromised.

A tip of the hat to you, sir. You are a master troll.

[vansVoish]

I hate Steam bullsh!t and always will. Invasive BS DRM enforcement. I hope Steam dies or changes their ways.

Windows Live games has a much more eloquent solution.

Death to Steam.

Your opinion is fine, but look up the word eloquent.

[Lyikmcmb]

A tip of the hat to you, sir. You are a master troll.

How do you figure?

--- Post Update ---

Your opinion is fine, but look up the word eloquent.

elegant then.

--- Post Update ---

lolwut

You've got to be kidding, preferring Games for Windows Live over Steam...

I didn't say I prefer the games, I said the DRM solution is better.

[Roneyslelry]

I didn't say I prefer the games, I said the DRM solution is better.

Dude, Games For Windows Live (GFWL) is the name of that DRM crap from Microsoft.

Step back, pull yourself together and try again.