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Old 07-20-2012, 09:25 PM   #21
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Point is, all it would take is one member of the audience with a permitted weapon to save countless others from being wounded or killed. You think taking permitted weapons away from law abiding citizens is a good idea? Awesome - but first the focus should be taking weapons away from those non permitted citizens. The war on concealed weapons would be a bigger failure than the war on drugs. Get over it. Anywho, I'm off the boards again for a while. Have fun hooping and hollering.
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:30 PM   #22
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Point is, all it would take is one member of the audience with a permitted weapon to save countless others from being wounded or killed.
You know that while there is an odd chance of that happening, there is a much bigger chance of more people ending up getting hurt in the confusion.

How would you know who is good or bad in this supposed gunfight in a dark cinema ?
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:29 PM   #23
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I read one persons account, apparently it happened a few minutes in, at a point where there was gunfire on the screen during some sort of chase. When James Holmes opened fire, people on the other side of the theater just thought it was amazing sound effects. When they saw people on the other side of the isle not moving they knew something was wrong.

I won't lie, I'm a little edgy on watching it tonight at the theater, I sure hope nothing else happens in America or elsewhere. My thoughts & prayers are with the families, friends, and relatives affected by this horrible event.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:36 PM   #24
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I hope they take this bloke apart, bone by bone.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:48 PM   #25
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What a nut. Freaking sucks. To bad no one had a gun on them to take this ****er out. Better he be dead then go through court and just end up in prison.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:08 PM   #26
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What a nut. Freaking sucks. To bad no one had a gun on them to take this ****er out. Better he be dead then go through court and just end up in prison.
Let me list all the things, why what you said, is extremely stupid.

1. Dark cinema

2. Gunshots could already be heard from the film audio, more confusion

3. You assume that everyone is an awesome marksmen and can take out a guy dressed in black with a bulletproof vest with a fully automatic weapon in DARK cinema.

4. If he were killed it would only result into months of speculation and he wouldn't have told the police about his explosives rigged apartment, which would have probably resulted in more deaths.

5. Dark cinema.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:09 PM   #27
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What a nut. Freaking sucks. To bad no one had a gun on them to take this ****er out. Better he be dead then go through court and just end up in prison.
I'd rather a shooter be caught alive and go through that. Trial and prison time is a worse sentence IMO. I can't imagine he will have a pleasant stay. The article said he may have shot up some children too. He probably won't last long in prison.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:17 PM   #28
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Let me list all the things why what you said is extremely stupid.
This is red_dog we're talking about. Stupid is par for the course.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:29 PM   #29
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I have a feeling this has something to do with the movie... Was he trying to be Bane? Or a a city terrorizer?
That's what sprang into my head. He wanted to become his own villain.


Do you think there might be a time in the non too distant future where we have to go through security x-rays and body scanners to get into any kind of public venue? Or is that just pointless because there would be just more shootings in the street.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:39 PM   #30
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That's what sprang into my head. He wanted to become his own villain.


Do you think there might be a time in the non too distant future where we have to go through security x-rays and body scanners to get into any kind of public venue? Or is that just pointless because there would be just more shootings in the street.
Some places already x-ray bags, or search them as you go in, or have walk-through metal detectors. I can't see it being practical to do everywhere though.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:00 AM   #31
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That's what sprang into my head. He wanted to become his own villain.


Do you think there might be a time in the non too distant future where we have to go through security x-rays and body scanners to get into any kind of public venue? Or is that just pointless because there would be just more shootings in the street.
How would that have helped this? I heard he broke in; unless you have armed SWAT teams everywhere it's not practical, or cheap. It's very rare to happen, either way. Shame that it happens, though. Nut cases get guns, not much you can do about that.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:59 AM   #32
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I heard on the news a few hours ago that one witness saw someone answer their cellphone during the movie, then proceeded to open the exit door that leads directly outside. All speculation at this point and nothing confirmed that Holmes had extra help, but it is suspicious none the less.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:23 AM   #33
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So I ended up going in to work. My hospital ended up treating up to 15 victims, 5 critical. Surgeries planned throughout the day. I had one co-worker at that theater, he was able to escape through an exit door assisting a young 15 year old boy. I'm so glad he was okay and not only that, but help others.

That theater is notorious for past gang violence, I haven't been there since I was in high school, but I can't imagine that the theater will survive any longer.
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:15 AM   #34
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Talk about unlucky coincidences.I'm just in the wrong place at the wrong time,and the wrong Country... TWICE!!

'Aspiring sports reporter feared dead in Colorado shooting,Jessica Redfield had narrowly escaped a Toronto mall shooting last month.'

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us...ims/index.html

(I know she was US citizen and UNLUCKY in two separate countries within weeks apart.With a similar thing happening on two occasions(shopping mall or cinema).
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:26 AM   #35
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I had one co-worker at that theater, he was able to escape through an exit door assisting a young 15 year old boy.
Heh, when I first read that I thought it said "he was able to escape by hiding behind a 15yr old boy".
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:27 AM   #36
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Heh, when I first read that I thought it said "he was able to escape by hiding behind a 15yr old boy".
Honestly, knowing him, i'm really proud that he didn't hide behind the young kid
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Old 07-21-2012, 02:56 AM   #37
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I'd rather a shooter be caught alive and go through that. Trial and prison time is a worse sentence IMO. I can't imagine he will have a pleasant stay. The article said he may have shot up some children too. He probably won't last long in prison.
Why would people want to pay to keep this guy alive in Prison. Just execute him and be done with it. I'm all for the Death Sentence, especially in clear cut cases like this.

For ambiguous cases by all means determine if there was a murder and if it was pre-meditated, temporary insanity, or just accidental homocide such as a car accident.

But if a man walks into a theater and just starts shooting people up and there is 100% proof, don't waste the peoples money and time. Or draw it out the suffering of victims and families. Pull his plug and be done with it.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:13 AM   #38
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Why would people want to pay to keep this guy alive in Prison. Just execute him and be done with it. I'm all for the Death Sentence, especially in clear cut cases like this.

For ambiguous cases by all means determine if there was a murder and if it was pre-meditated, temporary insanity, or just accidental homocide such as a car accident.

But if a man walks into a theater and just starts shooting people up and there is 100% proof, don't waste the peoples money and time. Or draw it out the suffering of victims and families. Pull his plug and be done with it.
Yes sure, that's what the country needs right ? a murder to redeem other murders. Besides, killing him would not be punishment, life alone in solitary would be much better.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:13 AM   #39
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Who think's it's a false flag operation? With the idea it'll help get fire-arms outlawed in a UN treaty signing in a few days time.
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Old 07-21-2012, 03:18 AM   #40
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Why would people want to pay to keep this guy alive in Prison. Just execute him and be done with it. I'm all for the Death Sentence, especially in clear cut cases like this.

For ambiguous cases by all means determine if there was a murder and if it was pre-meditated, temporary insanity, or just accidental homocide such as a car accident.

But if a man walks into a theater and just starts shooting people up and there is 100% proof, don't waste the peoples money and time. Or draw it out the suffering of victims and families. Pull his plug and be done with it.
The death penalty doesn't save money, it costs money; and it isn't a deterrent. Also it's abhorrent to kill someone based on the money it would in theory save.

One more thing, you don't alleivate suffering by dispensing with the justice system that people have died and fought to protect.
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