[gnusnich]

Investigating possible illegal votes, ie nothing actually proven. Lets see how many turn out to actually be illegal, especially when we're talking about 2000 out of 1.2 million.

[k1ePRlda]

Honestly, any election which is decided by less than the systematic+ statistical uncertainty should be redone.

JM

[ffflyer]

If a member of the Obama administration thinks voter fraud is rare then obviously it's not just the far left that thinks voter fraud is rare

[Pasy]

To say nothing of the thousands of votes that vanish from voting machines...

jesus ****ing christ...

[JeffStewart]

Oh my god we covered this but the liberals closed their eyes, put their fingers in their ears, and said LALALALALA!

Voter fraud? Philadelphia. Nuff said.

[mtautomoscow]

I'd wipe my ass with this opinion piece but it's so covered in bull **** I'd likely make my ass more dirty instead of less dirty.

[moopogyOvenny]

That's the tragedy of it right there. Voter fraud investigations are seen as "partisan."

Yes, when one party pushes to do something that the other party strenuously objects to because they see it as a ridiculous witch-hunt intended to provide them with ammunition to pass voter suppression laws, it is generally seen as partisan.

Look for instance at the way that you yourself jumped on this 'investigation' as supposed proof that voter fraud is a genuinely a problem, despite no proof having yet been found.

[movlabk]

This is exactly the kind of fantasy I referred to in the thread title.

So calling partisan game playing partisan is now fantasy? I guess the old joke about Australia being the continent where everything is upside down isn't really so far from the mark after all..

[dasneycomrov]

Find me a voter suppression law called for by any side of politics in the United States.

Yes, I'll certainly spend my time linking you to the dozens of republican sponsored voter suppression bills, just so you can turn around and insist they are not intended to suppress the vote. That would surely be a wonderful use of my time.

[JennyStewarta]

If he doesn't know about the Republican Party's very, very long history of voter suppression in the US then he just doesn't want to know. There is a ton of information out there and it has been covered to death by the media for the last half century as have their recent voter suppression efforts.

[XarokLasa]

If he doesn't know about the Republican Party's very, very long history of voter suppression in the US then he just doesn't want to know. There is a ton of information out there and it has been covered to death by the media for the last half century as have their recent voter suppression efforts.

Silly assumptions about a person from Australia who may not have a clue what you're talking about.

Reminds me of the articles on how an Aussie comedy show putting on black facepaint for a skit show was racist. Memo: Australians live halfway accross the world and do not know everything there is to know about American politics. What is offensive in the Deep South is not offensive to Australians.

Point being, we just don't have that shared base of cultural-historical knowledge you assume we have. Sure, I've watched tons of American tv shows and I know that American tv writers despise Republicans. But that doesn't establish much.

Yes, I've read a few books on American history--which happened to document rampant voter fraud by Democrats in the Deep South during Jim Crow and Tammany Hall, by the way, along with Democrats like FDR who cleaned up politics. As a matter of fact I have not heard much about voter fraud perpetrated by Republicans at all. And mind you, the last history I read was by a Roosevelt Democrat (or at any rate a historian quite sympathetic to FDR)-Hugh Brogan's Penguin History of the USA.

So again, provide me an example of Republican-sponsored voter fraud legislation and I'll happily take it on board.

[mbaueee]

Let's wait and see if it is a couple of thousand votes or whether its yet another scare about nothing and we're talking about a handful.

That's what it always boils down to. Seriously, the Republicans have spent tens if not hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars trying to find supposed voter fraud yet they always come up with nothing but a handful of cases. Going back a decade ago Karl Rove tried to push this conspiracy theory to justify voter suppression of black voters but it really has all been bullshit.

Voter fraud is a problem which was solved in the US a half century ago.

[Rupeviv]

Wiki says it all really..

In 2007, a report prepared by the staff of the federal Election Assistance Commission found that, among experts, "there is widespread but not unanimous agreement that there is little polling place fraud". The report was based on research conducted by a Republican elections lawyer and another expert with liberal leanings.

The final version released to the public, however, stated that there was "a great deal of debate on the pervasiveness of fraud." Democrats charged that the commission, with a Republican majority, had altered the conclusion for political reasons, which the commission denied. During the George W. Bush administration, "The [Department of Justice] devoted unprecedented resources to ferreting out polling-place fraud over five years and appears to have found not a single prosecutable case across the country" Slate reported.

[Payodcapy542fro]

How the hell is there no fraud? The 1993 Stinson scandal in Philadelphia had rampant fraud. Poll workers today are known to go through the rolls, sign for people who haven't voted, and vote for them.

This law doesn't address such things but this idea that voter fraud doesn't exist in America and that the Democrats aren't benefiting immensely from it is a ****ing joke.

[Slintreeoost]

Explain how the Republican ID laws are supposed to stop poll workers from engaging in fraud.

Like I said "This law doesn't address such things"

But I'm sick and tired of Oerdin and Kentonio and whoever else going LALALALA no fraud except Republicans!

[Pvfcadbh]

Like I said "This law doesn't address such things"

But I'm sick and tired of Oerdin and Kentonio and whoever else going LALALALA no fraud except Republicans!

Sorry, I should have read your post more closely. I think it is clear Republicans are trying to suppress turnout. Is it possible that a corrupt poll worker could claim that they think someone's ID is fake?

[qikolax]

Not really, no. The Southerners started voting for Republicans but the Republican party did not subsequently adopt Jim Crow as a policy position. Instead it merely opposes stuff like affirmative action.

No, he's completely correct. You're problem is you're thinking party name when you should be thinking which party is liberal and which party is mostly conservative. Southern conservatives, both the politicians and the voters, all switched to the Republican Party in mass following LBJ's signing the civil rights act. That means all those southern conservatives who previously refused to vote Republican because they still blamed Republicans for the civil war suddenly became Republicans. The bad guys in this story, the evil racist shitbags, they were ALWAYS conservatives especially southern conservatives.

[crestorinfo]

Fraud practically doesn't exist.

You're back to screaming LALALALALA I see.

[wllsqyuipknczx]

You clearly don't know how Democratic machines work. It's not in the forefront because the ruling elite benefits from it. The Philly Republican party, meanwhile, controls the Parking Authority as one giant bribe to shut the GOP up so they're not rocking the boat.

[mdUzAMbG]

So we have one local GOP official claiming more than 100% of the population voted in some precincts, which would be worrying if true, but when asked for details the dumb ass can't actually name a single precinct where such an event happened. This is sounding like sour grapes to me; "I'm positive fraud happened because I lost". He's made some wild claims which have been proven to be completely false and yet you, like a complete dumb ****, still believe his claims without any evidence what so ever? What is wrong with you?

Sure, investigate it and see if there is any merit to the wild conspiracy theories but require hard evidence before believing said conspiracy theories.