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Old 07-02-2012, 07:36 PM   #1
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Default just saw the new pixar movie "brave"
if you have kids, i am pleased to report that it is normal. no mixing in of minorities where they don't fit to send social programming messages, no overt social propaganda, no environmental b.s. etc. i could not believe this film was actually made. it was quite good. as i hate almost any movie made, i am quite please to recommend it.

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Old 07-02-2012, 07:38 PM   #2
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I've always liked Pixar animations. Good stuff!

Disney, on the otherhand, can suck on giant gorilla dicks for all I care... I refuse to watch anything put out by that cesspit of a social engineering operation!
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:39 PM   #3
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every once in a while they make a good old-fashioned movie with no agenda.

i thought Pixar's "Ratatouille" fell into this category, also.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:55 PM   #4
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I've always liked Pixar animations. Good stuff!

Disney, on the otherhand, can suck on giant gorilla dicks for all I care... I refuse to watch anything put out by that cesspit of a social engineering operation!
after cars 2 i had little hope for pixar. then they went and did this.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:29 PM   #5
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Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:37 PM   #6
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Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.
huh? the men were all talked up at the end as having pulled together and saving the kingdom. the queen was shown in the end as being very shallow/stupid and not caring enough about her family. it wasn't about female independence, it was about merida's family finally pulling together as a unit and not just doing what was best for themselves. in the final scene, both the female figures admit they were wrong and that they should have listened to each other and made the family stronger from the beginning. i thought the family as a unit angle was very nice. i think you really have stretch to find fault with this one.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:06 PM   #7
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Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.
That is exactly why I prefer Korean films: the quality is about as high as the west, the plots and character development are deep, and they are free of social engineering. In passing, Chihwaseon makes all western flim I have seen, save perhaps for LotR, look like farces.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:06 AM   #8
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I wanted to see this movie,( its got to be better then The Lorax) But had to send my little one with my mom, she wanted a bow and arrow set after seeing the movie.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:12 AM   #9
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my daughter (9) wants to do archery now as well.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:29 AM   #10
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I didn't see the movie Tangled but wasn't that one also about the princess saving the day in spite of the bumbling idiot? I see a pattern but maybe I'm looking for it and have some confirmation bias goin on.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:29 AM   #11
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I thought Ice Age 4 was fun, and good for children, without any specific agenda!
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:54 AM   #12
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I didn't see the movie Tangled but wasn't that one also about the princess saving the day in spite of the bumbling idiot? I see a pattern but maybe I'm looking for it and have some confirmation bias goin on.
I believe so. I only saw the end but that is pretty much what I got out of it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:55 AM   #13
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I didn't see the movie Tangled but wasn't that one also about the princess saving the day in spite of the bumbling idiot? I see a pattern but maybe I'm looking for it and have some confirmation bias goin on.
you are correct, tangled was horrible and the pattern was there.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:27 AM   #14
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my daughter (9) wants to do archery now as well.
Archery is a valuable skill, encourage it!
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:15 AM   #15
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if you have kids, i am pleased to report that it is normal. no mixing in of minorities where they don't fit to send social programming messages, no overt social propaganda, no environmental b.s. etc. i could not believe this film was actually made. it was quite good. as i hate almost any movie made, i am quite please to recommend it.
Funny you say this my wife went to see it with her mom. I had never heard of it, she told me it was about Scottish kids. I asked how many asians mexicans, jews or black transvestites it had. She said none. I asked about global warming, depopulation, feminine males etc. She said it didn't have that either.

Which is refreshing.

Of course I still refuse to go to movies on moral grounds, but I'm glad every once in a decade a decent movie sneaks through.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:22 AM   #16
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I will bet you all that I will be able to find programming in it. No doubt about it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:34 PM   #17
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Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.
I took my son to see the movie. I didn't think about it until your post, but you're right. They made the male suitors look incompetent, ugly and stupid. I agree it was a male bashing movie. There was even a part where there was a big fight, including the king, and the queen had to sit there and wait for them to stop their childish behavior.

The queen arranged everything and simply told the king about it - such as the arrangements to bring the suitors in to arrange the marriage for their daughter. Subtle...but it was there. And I didn't even think about it until I read your post.
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:35 PM   #18
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but the entire point of the movie was that the queen was stupid for "running things." that's the whole tagline of the movie "change your fate." merida didn't want to ed up being the next bossy queen, she wanted to fall in love and marry whoever she chose, not be "the leader."
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:46 PM   #19
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There was this one that wasn't too bad:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmUD9Jhfh_U
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:40 PM   #20
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my daughter (9) wants to do archery now as well.
funny, i felt the same way after watching the hunger games.....
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