[gimffnfabaykal]

The much-anticipated toxicology report released by Miami-Dade Medical Examiner Dr. Bruce Hyma found marijuana in Eugene’s system, something CBS4 News had previously reported, but no evidence of any other street drugs, alcohol or prescription drugs, or any adulterants found in street drugs.The report said this includes cocaine, LSD, amphetamines (Ecstasy, Meth and others), phencyclidine (PCP or Angel Dust), heroin, oxycodone, Xanax, synthetic marijuana (Spice), and many other similar compounds.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27...A3JlF.facebook

[aideriimibion]

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27...A3JlF.facebook

What a revelation! People can just be crazy!

[Riprincattiva]

MJ doesn't make you eat peoples faces.

MJ + Mental Illness = Extreme "Face" Munchies.

[Marc Spilkintin]

MJ doesn't make you eat peoples faces.

MJ + Mental Illness = Extreme "Face" Munchies.

Maybe he really was a zombie!

Although "face munchies" is gold.

[GohJHM9k]

Maybe he really was a zombie!

Although "face munchies" is gold.

Could be!

[seodiary]

Some bullsh|t article I read on CNN blamed pot for the guy eating the dudes face....

[Konservir]

IIRC MJ is the only drug that keeps being detectable in blood for up to 3 months after smoking it, other drugs only take a few days to completely disappear from the system.

[Pashtet]

IIRC MJ is the only drug that keeps being detectable in blood for up to 3 months after smoking it, other drugs only take a few days to completely disappear from the system.

Dead people don't have metabolisms. I do concede that there are drugs that will decay fast enough to not be picked up though, but for the most part, if he was on other things, they would show up in a tox screen.

[mvjvz]

Dead people don't have metabolisms. I do concede that there are drugs that will decay fast enough to not be picked up though, but for the most part, if he was on other things, they would show up in a tox screen.

What I meant was that he could have smoked it up to months before and weed would still be detectable in his body.

Anyway, news says he was a regular pot smoker, even though anyone with any hint of common sense would immediately dismiss that it could have had any part in this attack.

I think he was just ****ing crazy.

[Blellurgews]

IIRC MJ is the only drug that keeps being detectable in blood for up to 3 months after smoking it, other drugs only take a few days to completely disappear from the system.

That's not even remotely close to being correct.

There are many variables involved:

1. method of detection - urine, blood, tissue (HPLC or mass spec of hair can show drug use going back as far as the hair growth, which can be years in people with very long hair).
2. target of testing - depending on which metabolite you're looking for, LSD has metabolites that remain in the CSF almost indefinitely at low concentrations (again, only HPLC/mass spec can detect that).
3. duration of use - many metabolites have reservoirs in fat or muscle, and will slowly leech out over time. One-time use of cannabis can be detected in the urine for several days, but habitual use can fill the reservoirs and be detectable for months (as you said).

Most employers will settle for an antibody-based urine test, which really only detects either very recent use, or long-term habitual use. However, if someone wants to drop $10k such as on a court-ordered test, they can find surprising things.

[Nashhlkq]

That's not even remotely close to being correct.

There are many variables involved:

1. method of detection - urine, blood, tissue (HPLC or mass spec of hair can show drug use going back as far as the hair growth, which can be years in people with very long hair).
2. target of testing - depending on which metabolite you're looking for, LSD has metabolites that remain in the CSF almost indefinitely at low concentrations (again, only HPLC/mass spec can detect that).
3. duration of use - many metabolites have reservoirs in fat or muscle, and will slowly leech out over time. One-time use of cannabis can be detected in the urine for several days, but habitual use can fill the reservoirs and be detectable for months (as you said).

Most employers will settle for an antibody-based urine test, which really only detects either very recent use, or long-term habitual use. However, if someone wants to drop $10k such as on a court-ordered test, they can find surprising things.

I was just waiting for your obviously better informed opinion on the subject.

Thanks for the info.

[tactWeiccaf]

its scary how many types of synthetic THC are being pumped out by factories, one reason for the popularity is that they don't show on many standard drug test kits (like US companies use).

some of those have god knows what kind of side effects and the concentration of them is wildly variable.

maybe this guy was on some synthetic canniboid that didn't show up in the test and smoked a joint a month ago. or he's just nuts. but there are for sure people having terrible experiences on synthetic drugs. the solution is to legalize grass TBRH.

[iceleliewBync]

Meh, the guy was a ticking time bomb. Maybe MJ was the trigger that set him off, but I have read that psychotics can be triggered by alcohol, stress, anger, adrenaline etc... Being psychotic was his problem, not minute traces of thc.

Though, all those people complaining in comment sections how "there wouldn't be such cases of people doing crazy things on synthetics if you would just legalize MJ" sure were quite when only thc was found in his blood

[ArraryTauTDew]

That is downright creepy!

[Cricequorie]

Of course the guy was a nut.

It's ridiculous to even suggest that even the most powerful strain of marijuana is going to make you eat a strangers' face off.

Hell, meth won't make you do that.

[Rurcextedutty]

Of course the guy was a nut.

It's ridiculous to even suggest that even the most powerful strain of marijuana is going to make you eat a strangers' face off.

Hell, meth won't make you do that.

Classifying someone as a "nut" is a complete over simplification. This needs to be investigated further, as it is extremely chilling that a human being could engage in behavior such as this without any (known) drug influence.

[bgsavings]

As Zeddoo pointed out, there are underlying conditions that have been recorded as being triggered by MJ and, I would expect, other 'recreational' drugs.
There may have been a mental condition that wasn't affected by any drug use, but it would be unlikely to help.

I've known (at least) two people who were affected by LSD to the point of being put into hospital, one recovered and the other commited suicide (stole mother's car and smashed into a bridge abutment) when on a home release. Both were apparently fine beforehand.
Datura is another 'natural' plant that has had those trying it doing some very strange things, like self mutilation.

[royarnekara]

I've known (at least) two people who were affected by LSD to the point of being put into hospital, one recovered and the other commited suicide (stole mother's car and smashed into a bridge abutment) when on a home release. Both were apparently fine beforehand.

Yeah they were fine...

[portoskins]

Classifying someone as a "nut" is a complete over simplification. This needs to be investigated further, as it is extremely chilling that a human being could engage in behavior such as this without any (known) drug influence.

Yes, just saying "nut" is an oversimplification, I just thought people would get the gist of it.

But how it it extremely chilling without any drug interaction ? People have done way worse things than this.


I found the reason.

"She says Eugene was a Christian who wanted to learn more about the Muslim faith and often read the Bible and the Koran."

Seems like he was mixing religions, never a good combination. Let's wait for the autopsy, maybe they'll find some Scientology in there as well.

[KLIMOV25gyi]

Yeah they were fine...

Are you blind, illiterate and/or trying to be a smart-a** - with only the latter part of the last being correct?

I said "apparently"!

Just noticed, the banner add at the top of the page is advertising three rehab institutes - co-incidence - or conspiracy?