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Old 07-01-2012, 09:11 AM   #1
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Default Which president gave Native Americans the right to vote?
Many states prevented native americans from voting long after the federal government had recognized such a right. So not all of them got the right to vote at once.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:25 AM   #2
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Many states prevented native americans from voting long after the federal government had recognized such a right. So not all of them got the right to vote at once. BZZT! Zero.

Seeing as the question asked which president was responsible for giving them voting rights, one would presume that would apply to federal voting rights, no?
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:28 AM   #3
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So who was it Gribbler? Do you want to ask the audience? Phone a friend?
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:51 AM   #4
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Andrew Jackson gave them the right to go **** themselves.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:57 PM   #5
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They got the right to vote in the 1920's so I'm assuming Calvin Coolidge. My favourite president. Yes, it is silent cal and the liberals will never admit this to be the case.

Given as it was Lincoln a republican, who freed the slaves, and Coolidge, a republican, who gave the natives voting rights, the real question remains - is it not the republicans who have supported freedom while the democrats supported slavery?
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:07 PM   #6
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Until the southern strategy yes of course it was the Democrats on the dark side, but given that the parties basically swapped bases this is hardly something any Republican should gloat about today. Yet it was Republicans who supported the Civil Rights act and democrats who did not. When did this mythical switch occur?
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:47 PM   #7
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Still not buying the mythical switch. Lincoln's party was centered around business interests and the religious (temperance movement, abolitionism, etc.).
This. The GOP's core constituency has remained constant for pretty much its entire history.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:11 PM   #8
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This. The GOP's core constituency has remained constant for pretty much its entire history.
Even before the GOP to the Whigs:

The Whigs appealed to voters in every socio-economic category but proved especially attractive to the professional and business classes: doctors, lawyers, merchants, ministers, bankers, storekeepers, factory owners, commercially oriented farmers and large-scale planters. In general, commercial and manufacturing towns and cities voted Whig, save for strongly Democratic precincts in Irish Catholic and German immigrant communities; the Democrats often sharpened their appeal to the poor by ridiculing the Whigs' aristocratic pretensions. Protestant religious revivals also injected a moralistic element into the Whig ranks.[7]

... Many were pietistic Protestant reformers who called for public schools to teach moral values and proposed prohibition to end the liquor problem. The Republican union between business and religion dates at least to 1833 and the Whigs.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:14 PM   #9
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This. The GOP's core constituency has remained constant for pretty much its entire history.
You're right. During Reconstruction, blacks overwhelmingly voted for Republican political office holders . . . . just as blacks do today.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:50 AM   #10
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So can anyone explain the basis for excluding American Indians and Asians from suffrage despite the 15th amendment? I've asked this in history classes but no teacher ever knew.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:58 AM   #11
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Have you ever done any research or - shudder - looked it up in a book?
Where would I begin? Seriously. Try to find this out.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:00 AM   #12
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Give me some input. What makes you think Asians and/or Ameriandians were banned from voting in the first place?
Umm... they were. Look at this thread. American Indians couldn't vote til 1924. The 15th amendment was passed in 1870.

Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:03 AM   #13
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Now do Asians, MrFun.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:06 AM   #14
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Now do Asians, MrFun.
I showed you how easy it is to do the research. You do it.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:08 AM   #15
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Lyndon Johnson
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:41 AM   #16
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So can anyone explain the basis for excluding American Indians and Asians from suffrage despite the 15th amendment? I've asked this in history classes but no teacher ever knew.
What was the basis for blacks not being able to vote? Racism.
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:16 AM   #17
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Andrew Jackson gave them the right to go **** themselves.
Yes.

Theory 1: The only reason why whites turned easy and soft on American Indians in the 20th century was because they didn't see them as a threat anymore, like in the 19th century.

Theory 2: Reservations of this day are basically zoos of people. They're isolated communities where the locals are paid by the host government to upkeep their culture and bloodline so they can be observed by curious tourists. In the instant moment when the host nation sees reservation as a potential genuine threat, it becomes obliterated.

Any reason-based (as opposed to emotion-based) opposition to these theories?

durr REPUBLICANS this, hurr DEMOCRATS that
good god

The 1924 act and the 1965 act which reversed many of it's goals were both based on slow, gradual ideological changes on how the voting public at large saw the US. Both received broad support from both parties. Neither has very little to do with party labels.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:41 AM   #18
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Yes.

Theory 1: The only reason why whites turned easy and soft on American Indians in the 20th century was because they didn't see them as a threat anymore, like in the 19th century.

Theory 2: Reservations of this day are basically zoos of people. They're isolated communities where the locals are paid by the host government to upkeep their culture and bloodline so they can be observed by curious tourists. In the instant moment when the host nation sees reservation as a potential genuine threat, it becomes obliterated.

Any reason-based (as opposed to emotion-based) opposition to these theories?
The Native Americans had basically run out of lands worth stealing by the end of the 19th century, so it was no longer in anyone's self interest to keep denying them any rights.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:06 AM   #19
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And Democrats are still racist as ****. I posted about the Democratic committeewoman who came to my house because I'm a registered Republican and was asking me what I thought about American jobs being outsourced to 'chinks'.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:12 AM   #20
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Yes, Woodrow Wilson was a racist. Do you want a list of racist presidents or something? Also, why would I need to "admit" that a president signed (not passed) a bill? I have no reason to care. I personally find it amusing that you can't choke out a simple historical fact because it runs contrary to your bias. You certainly are willing to choke out excuses for why it doesn't really count though. Odd that.
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