I agree with corrupt, there really must be a strong correlation. It's not black and white for sure (as I've had some intelligent friends who like to fight when they go out) but I would be more than surprised if there wasn't a significant link between them.

Think about your friends and how they act when drunk compared to their intelligence. Having a low does often go hand in hand with aggressive behaviour (people get annoyed when they don't understand things), but the intelligence level isn't the key factor IMO.

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Where this falls apart is the assumption that intelligent people are the only ones that go to restaurants, and less intelligent people are the only ones that go to pubs.

No matter how disheveled or unintelligent you are, you will always have pride, even if that is the only thing. Story:

As I left a grocery store this Wednesday, I casually turned my head and momentarily locked eyes with a man in the Express checkout lane (he was staring at me so I looked back). Uninterested, I immediately looked away and he yelled, "Pussy!"

I looked back at him and he had his arms out to his side asking, "What are you going to do about it?"

I shook my head and walked out of the store as he continued to cry, "That is right, you walk away."

I know that every tinomen on here would have wall-backflip kicked him into oblivion, but I am not a ninja. This man was ready for physical violence just for the fun of it - swiping an EBT card must be stressful.

Basically, people are assholes, stupid people are worse, including alcohol increases confidence and lowers logic.

The restaurant thing was just an example, it is generally where people would be more intellectual as opposed to a kebab van for example. TBH alcohol can make anyone violent, it is a depressant and combine a bad day or a big argument with a large amount of alcohol and things can quickly turn sour. However I still think that there is probably a connection between intelligence levels and probability of violent behaviour.

That is so wrong, and so judgemental.

This is also incredibly incorrect.

Actually it isn't. Too much too drink and even the most placid person can become violent if they get the wrong end of the stick.

I think his view is that a more intelligent person is more likely to be in a higher paying job and move in the social circles where one would dine, while a person of lower intellect is more likely to be in a lower paying/blue collar job and is more likely to drink in a pub or at home.
Not always the case, agreed.

It is not judgemental it is simply true... Yes I am stereotyping but face it... I am correct....

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As I said before it has been scientifically proven that there is a link. It is a depressant and increases the chance of turning violent.

It is funny I am sure people on this forum just disagree with me for the sake of it even tho I am obviously corrrect.

Wrong. I know plenty of people that would never instigate or get in a fight regardless of how much they drank. I see what you are trying to say but you are wrong in it being a catch-all.

Never said it wasn't a depressant or increases the chance of violence, just saying you are wrong that it could cause anybody to get violent.

While I would agree that alcohol can reduce the inhibitions that usually stop people becoming violent, you can't then assume that everyone is going to be violent if provoked - I've know people who would cry when drunk if hassled, but sober would be rather physical.

I'm not talking about just having one too many. I mean that if someone seriously over-drinks the results will be unpredictable. It's the same as any drugs - too much of it can induce a crazed stupor in some people.

I think "anyone" is being taken too literally.... I don't think he meant "anyone" as in "everyone"....

I think he meant that a lot of people who are very calm and placid when sober may become randomly violent when excessively drunk due to the depressant and hormonal effects of alchohol...

Obviously some people have different reactions, they might start crying or just fall asleep... But some people who are usually extremely placid may become violent due to alchohol.

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Hmmm this sounds like a very unlikely scenario.... 99% of the time it would be the other way around.

You just keep proving me right.

I agree it certainly increases the likelihood in a fair amount of people.

I am just saying that I have a few friends that I have known for years and seen them from tipsy to pass out on the floor drunk and they have never shown even a spark of violence when we are out. One crapped his pants, the other peed in the center of my other friend's living room, and the other is known for walking into people's bedrooms naked when they are trying to sleep with their significant other but no violence. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ies/laugh1.gif

Ha, very good.

You probably are a deeply bitter "english person" as well.

I find it hilarious people such as yourself, who seemingly exist to do nothing aside from stir up sh!t from behind the safety of a computer monitor don't see the inherent hypocrisy of decrying anyone elses actions.

The main difference between me, you and will, is that I will back up my words with actions, and all the two of you have is the ability to belch forth gaseous, putrid hot air when there is no danger of actually having to deal with the consequences of your actions. (this lack of ability to deal with consequences is probably the reason for the *****-mongering as well.)

If either of you were anything like what you'd like people to believe you are, if either of you had any self confidence or intrinsic sense of self worth, you'd probably not try to drag others down in to the filth and offal that you both reside in.

I agree. Alcohol just lowers your inhibitions, this is why some people fight more when drinking, they start not to care what they do, and that's when the trouble starts. If you aren't violent by nature, then alcohol doesn't suddenly make you violent, that part of a person has to already be there, the alcohol just helps let it out.

Well said my sentiments about freelancer exactly lol.

HAHAHA, my three words brought out that. Pathetic. Your life must be pretty sad that you can let a random person on the internet rile you up.

Quiet down boy, tinomen is barking.