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Old 06-03-2012, 04:28 PM   #41
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Seems DM is once again reading somethings i DID NOT write, as have several others who are similarly handicapped.

BTW, DM, since it seems you can't read your own cited site, either, I'll quote from it for you!

"adverb
21.
Often, lots. a great deal; greatly: Thanks a lot for the ride. I care lots about my family."

Care to comment now, huh?
As for trusting you, I'd sooner trust Rick Santorum - certainly on anything automotive!

In this case, I have commented on the DSG gearbox regarding an issue that has been reported on numerous forums, that has caused a lot of owners quite some inconvenience and expense. the reason I knew of this was because one of the other forum members asked if the diesel Golf had issues with the DSG gearbox http://www.eurosport.org.nz/forum/vi...p?f=154&t=9356 and I did some reading, yes, on the internet (pray tell me where else you would look?).

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...-transmission/
http://www.dsgproblems.co.uk/
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic...-dsg-auto-box/
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic...kdown-3-times/
etc
etc
etc
You can find your own examples

By no means are all, or most affected, as I said, but there are a lot of instances - certainly enough for it to be a very real concern for a new owner and, IMO, one who is concerned about trade in value!
Fruity, fully agree with you regarding changing transmission fluids, but it would seem it isn't a service item and, in any case, failures can be a very low mileages, where that wouldn't be a concern. As an aside, I was reading the other day that several manufacturers (like, cough, BMW) are ordering the, already fitted, drain and even fill plugs to be permanently plugged from their manual gearbox suppliers as they sell the gearboxes 'sealed for life'!

QD, I agree, when they work they work well (although I still prefer a true manual) but that's irrelevant to the reliability, isn't it?

Rather than addressing this, we have the usual trolls trying to stir things up!
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:25 PM   #42
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I knew you'd set he record straight.
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:43 PM   #43
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Seems DM is once again reading somethings i DID NOT write, as have several others who are similarly handicapped.

BTW, DM, since it seems you can't read your own cited site, either, I'll quote from it for you!

"adverb
21.
Often, lots. a great deal; greatly: Thanks a lot for the ride. I care lots about my family."

Care to comment now, huh?
As for trusting you, I'd sooner trust Rick Santorum - certainly on anything automotive!

In this case, I have commented on the DSG gearbox regarding an issue that has been reported on numerous forums, that has caused a lot of owners quite some inconvenience and expense. the reason I knew of this was because one of the other forum members asked if the diesel Golf had issues with the DSG gearbox http://www.eurosport.org.nz/forum/vi...p?f=154&t=9356 and I did some reading, yes, on the internet (pray tell me where else you would look?).

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...-transmission/
http://www.dsgproblems.co.uk/
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic...-dsg-auto-box/
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic...kdown-3-times/
etc
etc
etc
You can find your own examples

By no means are all, or most affected, as I said, but there are a lot of instances - certainly enough for it to be a very real concern for a new owner and, IMO, one who is concerned about trade in value!
Fruity, fully agree with you regarding changing transmission fluids, but it would seem it isn't a service item and, in any case, failures can be a very low mileages, where that wouldn't be a concern. As an aside, I was reading the other day that several manufacturers (like, cough, BMW) are ordering the, already fitted, drain and even fill plugs to be permanently plugged from their manual gearbox suppliers as they sell the gearboxes 'sealed for life'!

QD, I agree, when they work they work well (although I still prefer a true manual) but that's irrelevant to the reliability, isn't it?

Rather than addressing this, we have the usual trolls trying to stir things up!
This is the usual rearrangement of your argument that we always see....as for lots: you said it just means more than several, and I argued that it doesn't, because it doesn't.

As for your links....one sparsely populated forum and a link from 2006 and 2009! Awesome.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:05 AM   #44
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People think that I am sometimes wrong, but they are always wrong about this, no matter how many of them there are.

Is there a term for this affliction?
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:33 AM   #45
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Is there a term for this affliction?
Cognitive Dissonance.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:24 AM   #46
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Cognitive Dissonance.
That seems like a cover-all.

I was thinking there was something like gordontic or gordatively repressed.

Perhaps we should wait on an expert to chime in?
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:02 AM   #47
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Nice car, was going to get an A1 myself when my A3s motorplan expired. I wanted the 1.4TFSI S-Line but over here in SA the guys wanted crazy money for it basically they wanted more than a Golf 6 GTI and they refused to give me a base model car. So passed on it and bought something else.
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:15 AM   #48
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This is the usual rearrangement of your argument that we always see....as for lots: you said it just means more than several, and I argued that it doesn't, because it doesn't.

As for your links....one sparsely populated forum and a link from 2006 and 2009! Awesome.
You really do live in your own little world, don't you, and you STILL can't read what I write!
What I said was "A "LOT" doesn't mean every, or most, it means a number greater than several*" - so, where do I limit it to 'just' anything? I was already familiar with many of the meanings of "lot", "a lot" and "alot", however there were some I wasn't familiar with, so your post did actually have some educational merit.

What I suggest is you, and others who have trouble reading what I write, add me to your ignore list, so we're all happy
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:33 AM   #49
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You really do live in your own little world, don't you, and you STILL can't read what I write!
What I said was "A "LOT" doesn't mean every, or most, it means a number greater than several*" - so, where do I limit it to 'just' anything? I was already familiar with many of the meanings of "lot", "a lot" and "alot", however there were some I wasn't familiar with, so your post did actually have some educational merit.

What I suggest is you, and others who have trouble reading what I write, add me to your ignore list, so we're all happy
When someone says "blah blah has 'a lot' of issues", they usually intend for that to influence a decision or at least be pointing out that the 'issue' at hand is significant enough to be worth mentioning. The reason you've managed to rub everyone up the wrong way, in this thread and countless others, is that you say something like this and then spend the next 40 posts trying to change what was inferred by nit picking at every reply.

Your intent, for whatever reason, was to say the DSG is unreliable, based in what you'd heard. No one else agrees, so explaining over and over again what you 'meant' makes no difference.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:00 AM   #50
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When someone says "blah blah has 'a lot' of issues", they usually intend for that to influence a decision or at least be pointing out that the 'issue' at hand is significant enough to be worth mentioning. The reason you've managed to rub everyone up the wrong way, in this thread and countless others, is that you say something like this and then spend the next 40 posts trying to change what was inferred by nit picking at every reply.

Your intent, for whatever reason, was to say the DSG is unreliable, based in what you'd heard. No one else agrees, so explaining over and over again what you 'meant' makes no difference.
It's like the HPFP (High Preasure Fuel Pump) issue with the VW CR TDI's. You will find people all over the place screaming about how unreliable it is and the failures are epidemic. And adding to the problem is if the pump goes out, it's nearly a $10k bill to repair the fuel system (but I haven't seen too many people actually paying this out of pocket, usually they can get it covered under warranty or insurance).

However, if you were to do proper research, you would find the actual statistical failure rate is extremely low to the point where it's actually uncommon. (Source). What makes it so significant is simply the high costs of this particular failure. And a lot of those failures were due to mis-fueling or contaminated fuel.

Gordo is doing the same thing. He is overblowing something that statistically is not something to be concerned about. He's also using out of date information. While there has been recalls on previous DSG's (one was for a temperature sensor). I have not seen a recall on any newer DSGs, nor have I seen any significant widespread issues. I'm over at TDIClub all the time and if there was an issue with the DSG as bad as Gordo makes it out to be, it would definitely turn up there. But all I'm seeing are the normal random failures you would find in any vehicle.
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Old 06-04-2012, 04:19 PM   #51
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I think the S-tronic boxes are good, but they increase wait times for the car quite a lot. I waited 3 months as it was. Also, the S-tronic was only available on petrols. The 1.4 185bhp model was the most attractive of those. But, it cost about £1000 more than the diesel one I got and obviously would cost a bit more to run, so I didn't peruse that idea.

The back end does look interesting, but I like it.

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Old 06-04-2012, 09:27 PM   #52
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What is it with you and bender/hairdressers cars !!!!!!1!

have you got that house/flat yet matey ?

being married is great but my god I'm not as rich as I used to be no more 3k in the bank float on a monthly basis for me anymore, lucky to see 500 quid.

still got the same car though and a seat Alhambra
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:52 PM   #53
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What is it with you and bender/hairdressers cars !!!!!!1!

have you got that house/flat yet matey ?

being married is great but my god I'm not as rich as I used to be no more 3k in the bank float on a monthly basis for me anymore, lucky to see 500 quid.

still got the same car though and a seat Alhambra
Planning on buying with girlfriend now, rather than by myself. Have to wait until she can change her 'buy-to-rent' mortgage though, which is a few months.

I'm glad you like the car, anyway. Your's is almost a museum piece now, a classic I suppose.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:01 PM   #54
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Yeah pushing 150k now, she's still in mint condition mind

nice to see Ur doing alright (apart from the dodgy guts but hopefully that sorted now)

make sure its a joint application matey,just in case anything goes wrong or better still have her put it all in her name
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