[Sydaycymn]

Sparafucil, I really don't think that someone who has made it clear they hate all things English can possibly give an objective point of view on a subject such as this.

[Rffkwfct]

Sparafucil, I really don't think that someone who has made it clear they hate all things English can possibly give an objective point of view on a subject such as this.

I think he's just jealous because of all the things the UK has given the world. What has France given it? Not a lot.

[Smalmslobby]

There isn't anyone else there.

Things would be different if Argentina had been allowed to retain control of the Islands.

Um yes you did. You said we should "repatriate" everyone who wishes to remain British. Since that's everyone on the islands, and that they don't want to leave, nor do they wish to be ruled by Argentina, how else would you do it but forcibly? I imagine many will want to leave when the Islands changes hands.

They're your nation's subjects. If you're willing to sacrifice the lives of 255 British servicemen and hundreds more Argentinians for their benefit, I imagine your government would feel some obligation to help relocate those who wished to do so, no?

I think you know exactly the point I'm trying to make. If US territory was invaded by a foreign power, regardless of how it was come by originally, would you expect the US government to tale action? Yes or no? The only foreign power that has even the remotest legitimate claim to a US occupied property is Cuba's claim to Guantanamo Bay naval base.

And yet you (people of European origin) are still there and running things. Why don't we "repatriate" all the people of European origin in the United States and give it back to its rightful owners, namely the native Americans? Even if such a thing were feasible, Native American concepts of territorial ownership is quite different from Europe's, and the idea of nationalism non-existent. It might be another story if most of America were unpopulated, but it's not. The Falklands are. There are apartment towers in New York that house half the number of Falkland Islanders FFS.

It's amazing the absurd lengths some of you brits will go to justify your imperial past. Whereas the French, Spanish, Dutch, and Americans by and large feel remorse for their colonialism, the British seem to think it was some lost Golden Age and not all that bad for the conquered and colonized. You hide behind the respect for the opinion of Islanders because you know they would never vote to secede from Britain, and you wouldn't allow it if they did. History is littered with millions of corpses of those trying to overthrow British rule. The real reason you oppose returning the Falklands is because it would be just another painful reminder of the demise of your nation's empire and increasing global irrelevancy.

[Habalinnyf]

I think he's just jealous because of all the things the UK has given the world. What has France given it? Not a lot.

Well technically when the Normans ( Normandy, Northern France ) conquered Britain, they helped mould us in to the country we are today. I also think they helped sales of white flags during the world war lol.

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The real reason you oppose returning the Falklands is because it would be just another painful reminder of the demise of your nation's empire and increasing global irrelevancy.

Actually the real reason; which nobody seems to have mentioned, is the possibility of controlling the oil that is about to be mined there. Argentina would not give two hoots about the Falklands if it was not for this. The very fact that you have not even mentioned oil shows how little you really know about the situation this time around.

[Npbfamgt]

I think he's just jealous because of all the things the UK has given the world. What has France given it? Not a lot.

I would say France gave the world the United States.

The British gave us the most brutal and tyrannical empire to have ever existed and raped the face of this world.

[crycleascentyv]

Actually the real reason; which nobody seems to have mentioned, is the possibility of controlling the oil that is about to be mined there. Argentina would not give two hoots about the Falklands if it was not for this. The very fact that you have not even mentioned oil shows how little you really know about the situation this time around.

I'm aware of the recent oil dispute. But Argentina's claim to the Malvinas have existed long before that. Given their history, Argentina, and many South American nations, are extremely sensitive regarding issues of national territory.

[Endatrybeeddy]

I would say France gave the world the United States.

The British gave us the most brutal and tyrannical empire to have ever existed and raped the face of this world.

I am sure if we looked hard enough, we could all find atrocities in our histories. Like the fact that the barbaric way many African's treat each other in wars now (the way people mutilate each other etc) was actually 'taught' to them by the French.

[OccabsLam]

Things would be different if Argentina had been allowed to retain control of the Islands.

Things would be different if we'd all stayed in bed. Things would be different if I hadn't let my cat out (I don't have a cat but that's neither here nor there).

We were there first anyway.

Actually the real reason; which nobody seems to have mentioned, is the possibility of controlling the oil that is about to be mined there. Argentina would not give two hoots about the Falklands if it was not for this. The very fact that you have not even mentioned oil shows how little you really know about the situation this time around.

Yeah, it's funny how they were all quiet about them for years after the war, and now they've suddenly started going on about them again.

I would say France gave the world the United States.

The British gave us the most brutal and tyrannical empire to have ever existed and raped the face of this world.

France? Which language do you speak? Did you know that your own Constitution is based on our Magna Carta?

[Green_Monkey23]

I would say France gave the world the United States.

The British gave us the most brutal and tyrannical empire to have ever existed and raped the face of this world.

They also educated and helped bring half the world in to the modern age with their science and technology.

I'm aware of the recent oil dispute. But Argentina's claim to the Malvinas have existed long before that. Given their history, Argentina, and many South American nations, are extremely sensitive regarding issues of national territory.

That may be the case, that still does not hide the fact that it really is about oil this time.

[Optipitle]

I'm aware of the recent oil dispute. But Argentina's claim to the Malvinas have existed long before that. Given their history, Argentina, and many South American nations, are extremely sensitive regarding issues of national territory.

Guilty consciences?

And please don't call them the "Malvinas", that is not their name.

[shenacatro]

France? Which language do you speak? Did you know that your own Constitution is based on our Magna Carta?

Did you know we fought against the British in the Revolutionary war?

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They also educated and helped bring half the world in to the modern age with their science and technology.

This is true. In the 1800s, many Americans went to France to get educated in art, architecture, science, math and many other fields and brought all of this back to the United States with them causing us to have heavy French influence.

[Nothatspecial]

Did you know we fought against the British in the Revolutionary war?

Of course I knew that.

And why would that be? Because you were one of our colonies, so I'd say we were a pretty big influence.

[GtmFeqJJ]

Did you know we fought against the British in the Revolutionary war?

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This is true. In the 1800s, many Americans went to France to get educated in art, architecture, science, math and many other fields and brought all of this back to the United States with them causing us to have heavy French influence.

I distinctly remember posting about the world in general, not just America. Which I must stress, the world does not actually revolve around, despite what you may have been educated to believe.

[Piediahef]

I distinctly remember posting about the world in general, not just America. Which I must stress, the world does not actually revolve around, despite what you may have been educated to believe.

Of course, the world revolves around the USA and China. Everyone else isn't really a player anymore, but I was just mentioning America to directly link it to my earlier point I was making.

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Of course I knew that.

And why would that be? Because you were one of our colonies, so I'd say we were a pretty big influence.

My point was we wouldn't exist without France.

[StizePypemype]

Of course, the world revolves around the USA and China. Everyone else isn't really a player anymore, but I was just mentioning America to directly link it to my earlier point I was making.

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My point was we wouldn't exist without France.

Actually the world revolves around oil, without which the world economy would collapse.

[effebrala]

Actually the world revolves around oil, without which the world economy would collapse.

Eh, maybe temporarily but at that point someone would get rich off of solar power. Did you know more energy from the sun hits the Earth in an hour versus the entire world oil supply? Sounds like BS, but it was from Michio Kaku.

[Petrushkaukrop]

Eh, maybe temporarily but at that point someone would get rich off of solar power. Did you know more energy from the sun hits the Earth in an hour versus the entire world oil supply? Sounds like BS, but it was from Michio Kaku.

Solar power's been around for years, but it's never been suitable for many serious applications. Nuclear fusion is the future IMO.

[itepearce]

Eh, maybe temporarily but at that point someone would get rich off of solar power. Did you know more energy from the sun hits the Earth in an hour versus the entire world oil supply? Sounds like BS, but it was from Michio Kaku.

Everyone knows about the potential of free energy, however the trading of oil is so interwined within the world econonmy to remove it suddenly would cause a collapse unlike anything we have known before. However don't worry, people like the Rockerfellers will keep drip feeding us on black gold for many more years and thus keep world economy dependent on it like a drug.

[infarrelisam]

Solar power's been around for years, but it's never been suitable for many serious applications. Nuclear fusion is the future IMO.

It's called advancement in the technology.

[Abaronos]

We were there first anyway.

Nope. The first settlers were French. The Spanish name for the islands is derived from the French.

Um we didn't sacrifice their lives, the Argentinian government did. That's what happens when you start a war, people die.

"He started it!" This logic is childish. You reciprocated an armed conflict where you did not have the moral high ground, and worse, bungled what should have been a clean military operation.

Just answer the question.

I already have. The requirement of a just war is a just cause. There are no foreign powers with a just cause to invade the US. A strong case could be made Argentina has such a cause. Argentina tried every available diplomatic means to regain control of the Malvinas through negotiation. What recourse did they have except to use force? I don't condone violence, but I can't say I blame them.

Bollocks.

And yet there have already been two posts by your fellow countrymen attempting to rationalize British imperialism.