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Old 03-26-2012, 01:46 AM   #1
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Default Texe Marrs: “Die America Die”
Texe Marrs: “Die America Die”

Texe joins us to disclose the reason why oil is rising to record prices, the economical debacle and collapse of the dollar, and his new dvd Die America, Die.
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Old 03-26-2012, 01:49 PM   #2
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texe always has great stuff, thanx Doc.
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Old 03-26-2012, 03:47 PM   #3
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texe always has great stuff, thanx Doc.
Fast forward to the 35:52 and listen and you'll be spitting up blood from your blood pressure exploding:

BP is Rothschild/Israeli-owned
America spent thousands of lives and $trillions invading Iraq
America forces Iraq to give exclusive contract for sale of it's oil to CNOOC (Chinese Oil Company) and BP for, are you ready......$2 per barrel ....... $2 per barrel!!!! This is outright fucking treason by our own government against the American people. I'm in a rage right now.

I keep thinking of that video someone posted here with G. Edward Gibbon interviewing the ex-KGB agent back in the 1970s: the latter explained how the communists infiltrate and subvert a nation over decades and how America was in the "demoralized" stage. That's the stage where people are so brainwashed and addled by propagnada that even after you show them proof of government treason they refuse to believe it. He said that about America in the 1970s. I think it's certainly true today. I can recall many a conversation about the FED, gold suppression, inflation, TARP, the $17 trillions that the FED gave away to the banks at 0%, and on and on and the only reaction one gets is a glazed over look of what else is new and a glib "that's interesting.." I think we are royally fooked.
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:02 PM   #4
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BP is Rothschild/Israeli-owned
America spent thousands of lives and $trillions invading Iraq
America forces Iraq to give exclusive contract for sale of it's oil to CNOOC (Chinese Oil Company) and BP for, are you ready......$2 per barrel ....... $2 per barrel!!!! This is outright fucking treason by our own government against the American people. I'm in a rage right now.
that's how i feel about the Obama-care Nightmare.

Force American citizens to consume a product that Hundreds of Thousands - perhaps Millions - of them have found to be Unhealthy ? i.e. American health-care.

they might as well pass a law to force Americans to smoke tobacco.

i have found that consuming American health-care, and smoking tobacco, to be bad for my health. therefore i consume neither product.

the word is Iatrogenic - health conditions caused by bad - and in many cases 'normal' - American medical care.


the 8 years of Bush & the 3 years of Obama - this is not America. the Bush43/ Obama version of America - yes, the un-American version of America promoted by Bush43/ Cheney & by Obama - that version of America can wither away.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:51 PM   #5
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G. Edward Gibbon
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:13 PM   #6
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Oops, Griffin! I always confuse him with the great English historian Edward Gibbon.
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:33 PM   #7
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BP is Rothschild/Israeli-owned
America spent thousands of lives and $trillions invading Iraq
America forces Iraq to give exclusive contract for sale of it's oil to CNOOC (Chinese Oil Company) and BP for, are you ready......$2 per barrel ....... $2 per barrel!!!! This is outright fucking treason by our own government against the American people. I'm in a rage right now.
Other than Texe saying this is true, how is this verifiable?
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Old 03-26-2012, 11:53 PM   #8
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Other than Texe saying this is true, how is this verifiable?
I questioned that number also. Is Der Spiegel respectable?

A Lot of Blood for Little Oil

Contrary to what many people believe, the Iraq war provided few advantages for the US oil industry. The diplomatic cables show that, in most cases, it was competitors to the Americans who often did better in the country. Only one US company truly profited: Halliburton.

During the first bidding rounds, the oil bosses were still laughing. When Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein al-Shahristani issued the first drilling contracts for foreign multinational companies at Baghdad's al-Rashid Hotel on June 30, 2009, he made clear that there would not be any sharing of profits, but rather a fixed price paid for each barrel of oil drilled.

But the companies still had great hopes. A consortium led by the US company Conoco Phillips wanted to get $26.70 per barrel in one difficult oil field. For the Rumaila area near the Kuwaiti border, ExxonMobil offered $4.80 per barrel. A consortium led by BP would have been happy with $3.99. "There was buzz in the room" during these bids, noted US Ambassador Christopher Hill.

But when the minister announced what his government actually wanted to pay, there was "stunned silence." Two dollars per barrel -- and nothing more. In addition, the companies would have to replace the Iraqis' ramshackle oil drills with new equipment. "Giggles were heard" when these figures were revealed, the ambassador wrote. Afterwards, Shahristani named the offer for other oil fields at prices that were even lower. Things grew silent.

A half a year later, in December 2009, Hill wrote a long report about the next bidding round. This time, Shahristani made even lower offers than during the first round. But that didn't stop companies for making bids at prices they would have laughed at only months earlier. In the end, bidder consortiums led by France's Total and China's CNPC secured contracts. Other companies awarded contracts were from Malaysia, Vietnam, Angola, Norway, Britain and Russia.

But there were no US companies.

Outside of the formal bidding process, only two US oil giants managed to secure contracts for other oil fields -- Exxon and Occidental.

"No Blood for Oil" had been a slogan used by protesters against George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq. A SPIEGEL cover story in January 2003 even carried the title "Blood for Oil" and analyzed Iraq's role as an oil power. Neoconservatives in Washington had always said that the money from Iraq's oil would be used to pay for the war and the reconstruction.

Few Oil Profits from $700 Billion Investment

But the opposite came true. A lot of blood was spilled, but very little oil flowed for the US. With production of 2.5 million barrels of crude oil daily, production in Iraq has returned to close to its prewar levels. Forecasts now suggest it will take 20 years before that production is doubled or tripled, however. The US spent more than $700 billion on Iraq, but now Iraq's oil profits are going to other countries.

For almost five years, US diplomats have urged the Iraqis to finally pass a national oil and gas law. The main aim of the law was to stipulate a just sharing of oil revenues in the northern part of the country with the Kurds and to offer a level of investment security to firms doing business in Iraq. More than 50 diplomatic cables cover the wrestling over the law -- but al-Shahristani continued to hold the US at bay.

Even directly after the invasion, the US troops didn't pay close attention to the issue of oil. Plunderers began dismantling the facilities that, despite everything, still represented 90 percent of state revenues. Again and again, US diplomats living in the country that has the world's fourth-largest oil reserves complained that there was hardly any gasoline available. People had to wait for hours at gas stations, and gasoline even had to be imported from other countries.

Diplomats complained in 2007 of a "wild west atmosphere" that prevailed at the refinery in Baiji near Tikrit. "In practice the sprawling facility is jointly controlled by a number of official and unofficial actors," it reads. There was apparently a fuel smuggling epidemic.

Shortly afterward, US diplomats were also present when then-presidential candidate John McCain met with senior Iraqi government advisers. According to the cable, McCain rumbled that, "FedEx knows the location of every package it sends worldwide while the Iraqi oil ministry cannot account for 20-30% of the oil it produces."

A Crumbling Infrastructure

In addition, the Iraqi oil infrastructure was collapsing across the board. Around 80 percent of oil exports run through two underwater pipelines to the port at Basra. They were built in 1975 and were only expected to have a lifespan of 20 years. In order to prevent oil from escaping into the ocean, only a quarter of the foreseen amount can still be pumped through the pipes.

The US did spend more than $100 million to at least halfway renovate a terminal at Basra. But a second one is in terrible condition, the diplomats wrote. And workers in the oil industry are paid so badly that they often have to fish in the port during their working hours.

Not until December 2009 were US diplomats able to report a kind of war dividend for the country. "Basra black gold rush begins," reads one of the cables. At the very least, most foreign oil firms are hiring US engineers, it reads. Engineers, for example, from Halliburton -- the same Texas company that was very closely connected with the old Bush government. Vice President Dick Cheney had once served as Halliburton's CEO.

Halliburton's chief in Iraq was pleased when he spoke before US diplomats last December, almost as if he could hardly believe his own words. "It is really Halliburton [to whom] all the oil majors are turning," he is quoted as saying, "to extract, process, and deliver the oil."
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Old 03-27-2012, 03:10 AM   #9
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I questioned that number also. Is Der Spiegel respectable?

A Lot of Blood for Little Oil
Okay, so they are paying $2.00 per barrel.

I don't understand why foreign entities got these contracts? Was this a deal the U.S. agreed upon in order to have the oil priced in US Dollars? They get cheap oil and we get to keep the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency? It seems that might have been the deal. Don't piss off China and keep the ponzi scheme going?
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:07 PM   #10
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bump....
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:36 PM   #11
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Okay, so they are paying $2.00 per barrel.

I don't understand why foreign entities got these contracts? Was this a deal the U.S. agreed upon in order to have the oil priced in US Dollars? They get cheap oil and we get to keep the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency? It seems that might have been the deal. Don't piss off China and keep the ponzi scheme going?
Maybe our government is working for foreign interests? Maybe our government is treasonous? I know this sounds crazy, like suggesting that POTUS is not a legal citizen, is using a fraudulent Social Security number, and is not qualified to hold office. I mean, who would believe such nonsense?
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:09 PM   #12
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1000 trillion dollars in derivatives. Wow. 1000 trillion, I believe that's a gazillion.

1 gazillion dollars!
That's a quadrillion. (like a quadrillion BTUs, a standard measure of energy for nations, we're around 100 QBTUs in the US)

I posted about the $1 Quadrillion in derivatives as much as I could on Marketwatch in 2008. Eventually I was kicked off (I also linked some of my sites like siv0.com, later derivativescollapse.com).
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:13 PM   #13
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Maybe our government is working for foreign interests? Maybe our government is treasonous? I know this sounds crazy, like suggesting that POTUS is not a legal citizen, is using a fraudulent Social Security number, and is not qualified to hold office. I mean, who would believe such nonsense?
That is a given. Our government works for the international banking clique.

But there is a rhyme and reason for what they do. That is what I am trying to figure out. The whole Iraq invasion was to keep the US petrodollar and its world reserve currency status alive and well. So, China being pissed off that we are debasing their US dollar holdings, then demands oil real cheap to fuel their industry, or they will abandon the US dollar. That would make sense.
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Old 03-28-2012, 12:57 AM   #14
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There were 2 tidbits from this discussion I did not know.

1. The $2/bbl part. I knew (it was in the MSM back in 04-06ish) that Iraqi oil was going to China. That part was not news, but for 2 bucks a stinking barrel - wow.
2. NYSE merging/moving to Germany? I need to look into it further but that was another wow moment for me. NYC just might get nuked after all.

I thought BP's RapenPillageChild ownership was common knowledge after the Gulf exploded.

The host misspoke about Solyndra being a $500 billion loss, it was "only" $500 million.

Good listen overall, thanks.
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Old 03-28-2012, 01:29 AM   #15
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There were 2 tidbits from this discussion I did not know.

1. The $2/bbl part. I knew (it was in the MSM back in 04-06ish) that Iraqi oil was going to China. That part was not news, but for 2 bucks a stinking barrel - wow.
2. NYSE merging/moving to Germany? I need to look into it further but that was another wow moment for me. NYC just might get nuked after all.

I thought BP's RapenPillageChild ownership was common knowledge after the Gulf exploded.

The host misspoke about Solyndra being a $500 billion loss, it was "only" $500 million.

Good listen overall, thanks.
I thought the deal was canceled.
I guess regulators stopped it for now.
I'm thinking someone needs a better payoff.

What The Sale of NYSE Means: The Decline of Management


The planned acquisition of the New York Stock Exchange by the German Deutsche Börse AG has Wall Street aghast, with commentators lamenting the fall of American dominance. Fellow Forbes contributor, Emily Lambert, notes that “Colin Barr at Fortune, among others, called it a bad idea. This morning’s Wall Street Journal said a merger symbolized the end of New York’s financial dominance. The upshot: It’s going to be tough for Germans to buy the quintessential symbol of American capitalism… Expect to hear a lot about how this is a ‘merger of equals’.”

NYSE Euronext Is A Buy, Merger Or No Merger - Seeking Alpha


This is from 3-20-12.Deutsche Boerse will sue over ruling blocking NYSE merger
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