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Old 01-29-2012, 12:29 PM   #1
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Default PreCrime Survielence Spotlight Cameras coming to a neigborhood near you
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edit: misspelled surveillance and neighborhood; can not edit title =(
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:04 PM   #2
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Good and bad.

Good for the fact it may deter 'would be' criminals from performing a crime at that given time.

Bad because I would rather them be busted and thrown in jail like the scum they are.

However it would be somewhat embarrassing if your innocent and get the red light on you. Everyone looking will think your a crim.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:47 PM   #3
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I say good. I'd hope that once they know they're being watched they're going to GTFO without endangering anyone else. If you know you're being watched you're less likely to get yourself in even more hot water. It gives them time to make a getaway, which is bad, but good if it means they stop mid-crime and the victim doesn't get hurt/robbed.
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Old 01-29-2012, 05:05 PM   #4
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I dont't have much of a problem with it considering New Jersey is one of the biggest shithole states in the country.


Also, the police speaker had some sort of magical unibrow.
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Old 01-29-2012, 10:56 PM   #5
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Don't like it. Innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 01-30-2012, 01:37 AM   #6
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I'm not sure whether I like the idea or not, I think its fine if they are spotting real criminals and only using it when a crime goes down… but on the other hand – Precrime?!? is technology meant to intimidate the average Joe necessary? I think it’s a very slippery slope we're on.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:41 AM   #7
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Never worked in the UK, worse still a large amount if the footage cannot be submitted in our courts.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:46 AM   #8
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I don't see a problem with it. If you are outside your home or restroom there is no expectation of privacy.
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:32 AM   #9
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Pre-crime, huh?

Then is it OK if a I conclude that these people in suits oh-so-eager to do **** like this to others wont mind at all if concerned citizens shine red lights on them all day?

We can start with changing all the bulbs in Congress and the Senate to red ones, since we know for a fact actual crimes are committed there almost daily.

Then we can move on to the various state houses and police buildings.......

I'm sure it will go over real well.

What?
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:46 AM   #10
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Huge waste of money.

Stop a crime before it happens? That is how they are marketing it but not how it will work. They would only shine that light on someone when a guy behind 50 TVs happens to actually see a crime in process.

It may deter, but chances are, the light will be shined on you during the crime process, not before and that is if you are even noticed by the guy behind the camera. Plus, all you got to do is hide your face for plausable deniability with the current cameras that are in place. Geez, you would think that the current cameras in place would have been a good enough deterent, added a red light is going to change that?
Shoot, in a couple years there might be some huge lawsuits due to some happy trigger camera guys.
Someone gets shined in the face, falls and cracks their head open or something.


Might be giving an advantage to color blind criminals? lol.
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:13 PM   #11
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Huge waste of money.

Stop a crime before it happens? That is how they are marketing it but not how it will work. They would only shine that light on someone when a guy behind 50 TVs happens to actually see a crime in process.

It may deter, but chances are, the light will be shined on you during the crime process, not before and that is if you are even noticed by the guy behind the camera. Plus, all you got to do is hide your face for plausable deniability with the current cameras that are in place. Geez, you would think that the current cameras in place would have been a good enough deterent, added a red light is going to change that?
Shoot, in a couple years there might be some huge lawsuits due to some happy trigger camera guys.
Someone gets shined in the face, falls and cracks their head open or something.


Might be giving an advantage to color blind criminals? lol.
Totally agree. We should also make sure they are part of the 50% who pay taxes before prosecuting.
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:18 AM   #12
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Sounds an aweful lot like Minority Report to me.

With that in mind, it probably wouldn't work. When they put cameras on the street corners of high-crime areas, (mainly to try and catch dealers) they just conduct their business elsewhere, where they haven't put up cameras yet.
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:27 AM   #13
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Jesus, scanning plates while driving down the road as well? I don't like this at all, too much power.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:16 AM   #14
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With that in mind, it probably wouldn't work. When they put cameras on the street corners of high-crime areas, (mainly to try and catch dealers) they just conduct their business elsewhere, where they haven't put up cameras yet.
Sounds like it's working to me. You won't ever stop crime but keeping it off the streets is the best compromise.

ANPR cameras are here in the UK as well; have been for quite some time. If you have done nothing wrong, don't worry. But I'm sure if its use caught that paedo who skipped probation, you'd fistpump.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:22 AM   #15
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Sounds like it's working to me. You won't ever stop crime but keeping it off the streets is the best compromise.

ANPR cameras are here in the UK as well; have been for quite some time. If you have done nothing wrong, don't worry. But I'm sure if its use caught that paedo who skipped probation, you'd fistpump.
What? How is that working? Crime just happens at Corner B now instead of Corner A.


Oh there it is. The infamous "if you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about." Such a short-sighted and ignorant viewpoint.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:38 AM   #16
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Just wait till these cameras are running facial recognition software, im sure they already include license plate readers.
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Old 01-31-2012, 01:43 AM   #17
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What? How is that working? Crime just happens at Corner B now instead of Corner A.


Oh there it is. The infamous "if you don't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about." Such a short-sighted and ignorant viewpoint.
And then you put cameras on Corner B until there is nowhere left for them to go and they have to do it indoors. Yes it is working by keeping the crime off the streets, making the area safer. You will never stop crime, drug-dealing and so forth; but forcing them indoors is the best compromise for locals.

Yeah, very shortsighted. Although crime will forever happen, I'm glad that there is a better possibility of people being caught as they were followed by cameras, not having to totally rely on people seeing what happened or intimidated witnesses.

A lot of the ANPR cameras just catch uninsured drivers. I bet if you got hit by one you'd be fuming.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:04 AM   #18
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And then you put cameras on Corner B until there is nowhere left for them to go and they have to do it indoors. Yes it is working by keeping the crime off the streets, making the area safer. You will never stop crime, drug-dealing and so forth; but forcing them indoors is the best compromise for locals.

Yeah, very shortsighted. Although crime will forever happen, I'm glad that there is a better possibility of people being caught as they were followed by cameras, not having to totally rely on people seeing what happened or intimidated witnesses.

A lot of the ANPR cameras just catch uninsured drivers. I bet if you got hit by one you'd be fuming.
I would be upset, but I also have uninsured motorist coverage. I do not like the government having this power, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with having nothing to hide.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:15 AM   #19
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I would be upset, but I also have uninsured motorist coverage. I do not like the government having this power, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with having nothing to hide.
Yeah, it's catching people who break the law.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:24 AM   #20
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And then you put cameras on Corner B until there is nowhere left for them to go and they have to do it indoors. Yes it is working by keeping the crime off the streets, making the area safer. You will never stop crime, drug-dealing and so forth; but forcing them indoors is the best compromise for locals.

Yeah, very shortsighted. Although crime will forever happen, I'm glad that there is a better possibility of people being caught as they were followed by cameras, not having to totally rely on people seeing what happened or intimidated witnesses.

A lot of the ANPR cameras just catch uninsured drivers. I bet if you got hit by one you'd be fuming.
Your two points are self-defeating. You say crime will forever happen yet this will somehow doing something to curb it?

No it won't. This is just precious coming from such a defeatist nanny state nation that Britain has become.

You can stop drug dealing pretty easily which will stop most murders but most governments are not going to take the step.
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