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**gyjsdtuwr** · 08-10-2011, 12:56 PM

Qualifying about to start! [thumbup]

**VIAGRA-VIAGRA** · 08-10-2011, 01:49 PM

Watching now, what a great way to start the day.

7AM here.

**VIAGRA-VIAGRA** · 08-10-2011, 02:04 PM

Vettel snatches it at the last second.

**gyjsdtuwr** · 08-10-2011, 02:09 PM

Wow, Vettel took pole by 9 thousands of a second.
Then
Button
Hamilton
Massa
Alonso
Webber
Schumacher
Senna
Petrov
Kobayashi

Seems Hamilton had some sort of issue, possibly with Schumacher - they both failed to make the start line in time to make a last lap qualifying run.

Seems like tyre attrition is a big concern for the teams with suggestions of up to 5 tyre stops...

**Nikkkola** · 08-10-2011, 02:52 PM

Gonna be a great race I reckon, hoping the Mclarens take the fight to Vettel [thumbup]

**CializCialiscsqw** · 09-10-2011, 02:37 PM

Oh look, no punishment for Mini Schumi's dirty start.
Colour me surprised.

**Xodvbooj** · 09-10-2011, 02:48 PM

Now watch Lewis get a drive through........

Edit....maybe Massa didn't cry enough this time.

**gyjsdtuwr** · 09-10-2011, 03:50 PM

Well, that was a good race.
Perfect timing with Bathurst finishing about the same time as they started their warm up lap.

**Mugflefusysef** · 09-10-2011, 04:49 PM

Yay for the But. [thumbup] Boo to the Vet for trying to force our boy off. [thumbdown]

**griddle** · 09-10-2011, 07:03 PM

Yay for the But. [thumbup] Boo to the Vet for trying to force our boy off. [thumbdown]

God forbid we actually allow racing in formula 1 !

That move was perfectly fine and im glad the stewards agree. Its not like what Schumacher did to Barrichello a while back. Here Button was behind and he still had the kerb and grass and 80% of the track road. Acceptable but risky driving.

**Xodvbooj** · 09-10-2011, 08:29 PM

God forbid we actually allow racing in formula 1 !

That move was perfectly fine and im glad the stewards agree. Its not like what Schumacher did to Barrichello a while back. Here Button was behind and he still had the kerb and grass and 80% of the track road. Acceptable but risky driving.

However if it was a certain other driver we'd have all sorts of fuss.

**SerycegeBunny** · 10-11-2011, 06:21 AM

God forbid we actually allow racing in formula 1 !

Exactly...!! If you're not allowed to move over and block your opponent then it might as well be qualifying only.

Bit awkward at the end btw with jenson talking to vettel in the backroom

**SerycegeBunny** · 10-13-2011, 07:29 PM

[yawn] It's just not exciting. Maybe because passing looks too easy, like it's less of an achievement. Seem some good racing at Brands though.

Easy to overtake?? HAHA while they have DRS in F1 ?
Besides riding on the edge on a motorbike requires way more than just commitment and turning the steering wheel. It's about body position and weight and stamina too.

Better link of the final lap: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjePvNcu8n4

**gyjsdtuwr** · 10-13-2011, 11:33 PM

About the only difference it that it hurts more crashing a bike than a car.
F1 drivers are driving for up to two hours while withstanding up to 4G lateral and 5G under braking with suspension that's hard enough for them to be pounded for the full race - if that's not bad enough, cockpit temperatures can be pushing 50C.
As for overtaking, a bike takes up a lot less track width and the riders tend to use more track.

That said, the bike riders do put on some very good racing at times.

**Waymninelia** · 10-13-2011, 11:49 PM

Bikes can't brake either!

A totally different class of racing tbh, some folks like watching Lawn Mower racing too as I've heard it's quite exciting!

**dremucha** · 10-14-2011, 12:08 AM

Easy to overtake?? HAHA while they have DRS in F1 ?
Besides riding on the edge on a motorbike requires way more than just commitment and turning the steering wheel. It's about body position and weight and stamina too.

Better link of the final lap: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjePvNcu8n4

What's so funny? I think you missed the point. I'm saying it's more challenging to overtake on 4 wheels, which therefore makes it more exciting to me. In F1, overtaking was so hard they introduced DRS, which provides us with more of the exciting overtaking. On some tracks maybe making it too easy, but that's just during the first season on implementing it I'd hope.

In F1, stamina matters as well. OK bikes have rider positioning, but that doesn't really make a difference to me sat on the sofa at home.

**Waymninelia** · 11-10-2011, 07:41 AM

Poor Hamilton fans, he's not even the best driver in his own team anymore...

**worldofwarcraft** · 11-10-2011, 08:31 AM

Woah, says who?

Regardless, Vettel could win 10 championships whilst in a coma driving that Red Bull. And Jenson Button could bring about world peace being the all round spiffing guy that he is.

But people will still focus more on what Hamilton does or doesn't do... as you have aptly proved.

**seatlyled** · 11-10-2011, 08:42 AM

Woah, says who?

Regardless, Vettel could win 10 championships whilst in a coma driving that Red Bull. And Jenson Button could bring about world peace being the all round spiffing guy that he is.

But people will still focus more on what Hamilton does or doesn't do... as you have aptly proved.

So no possibility that Vettel is a true champion material then?

**worldofwarcraft** · 11-10-2011, 08:57 AM

So no possibility that Vettel is a true champion material then?

That remains to be seen, naysayers have a great talent of focusing on the negatives when their driver of choice isn't getting all the glory.

And for the first time ever, it feels good to be one.

In short, it was all the car... and yes Webber is shite.

08-10-2011, 12:56 PM	#1
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VIAGRA-VIAGRA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Watching now, what a great way to start the day. 7AM here. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2011, 02:04 PM	#3
VIAGRA-VIAGRA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Vettel snatches it at the last second. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2011, 02:09 PM	#4
gyjsdtuwr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 558 Senior Member	Wow, Vettel took pole by 9 thousands of a second. Then Button Hamilton Massa Alonso Webber Schumacher Senna Petrov Kobayashi Seems Hamilton had some sort of issue, possibly with Schumacher - they both failed to make the start line in time to make a last lap qualifying run. Seems like tyre attrition is a big concern for the teams with suggestions of up to 5 tyre stops... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-10-2011, 02:52 PM	#5
Nikkkola Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 548 Senior Member	Gonna be a great race I reckon, hoping the Mclarens take the fight to Vettel [thumbup] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2011, 02:37 PM	#6
CializCialiscsqw Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 395 Senior Member	Oh look, no punishment for Mini Schumi's dirty start. Colour me surprised. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2011, 02:48 PM	#7
Xodvbooj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 407 Senior Member	Now watch Lewis get a drive through........ Edit....maybe Massa didn't cry enough this time. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2011, 03:50 PM	#8
gyjsdtuwr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 558 Senior Member	Well, that was a good race. Perfect timing with Bathurst finishing about the same time as they started their warm up lap. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2011, 04:49 PM	#9
Mugflefusysef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 540 Senior Member	Yay for the But. [thumbup] Boo to the Vet for trying to force our boy off. [thumbdown] Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2011, 07:03 PM	#10
griddle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	Yay for the But. [thumbup] Boo to the Vet for trying to force our boy off. [thumbdown] God forbid we actually allow racing in formula 1 ! That move was perfectly fine and im glad the stewards agree. Its not like what Schumacher did to Barrichello a while back. Here Button was behind and he still had the kerb and grass and 80% of the track road. Acceptable but risky driving. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-10-2011, 08:29 PM	#11
Xodvbooj Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 407 Senior Member	God forbid we actually allow racing in formula 1 ! That move was perfectly fine and im glad the stewards agree. Its not like what Schumacher did to Barrichello a while back. Here Button was behind and he still had the kerb and grass and 80% of the track road. Acceptable but risky driving. However if it was a certain other driver we'd have all sorts of fuss. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 06:21 AM	#12
SerycegeBunny Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 590 Senior Member	God forbid we actually allow racing in formula 1 ! Exactly...!! If you're not allowed to move over and block your opponent then it might as well be qualifying only. Bit awkward at the end btw with jenson talking to vettel in the backroom Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2011, 07:29 PM	#13
SerycegeBunny Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 590 Senior Member	[yawn] It's just not exciting. Maybe because passing looks too easy, like it's less of an achievement. Seem some good racing at Brands though. Easy to overtake?? HAHA while they have DRS in F1 ? Besides riding on the edge on a motorbike requires way more than just commitment and turning the steering wheel. It's about body position and weight and stamina too. Better link of the final lap: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjePvNcu8n4 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-13-2011, 11:33 PM	#14
gyjsdtuwr Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 558 Senior Member	About the only difference it that it hurts more crashing a bike than a car. F1 drivers are driving for up to two hours while withstanding up to 4G lateral and 5G under braking with suspension that's hard enough for them to be pounded for the full race - if that's not bad enough, cockpit temperatures can be pushing 50C. As for overtaking, a bike takes up a lot less track width and the riders tend to use more track. That said, the bike riders do put on some very good racing at times. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Waymninelia Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	Bikes can't brake either! A totally different class of racing tbh, some folks like watching Lawn Mower racing too as I've heard it's quite exciting! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-14-2011, 12:08 AM	#16
dremucha Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	Easy to overtake?? HAHA while they have DRS in F1 ? Besides riding on the edge on a motorbike requires way more than just commitment and turning the steering wheel. It's about body position and weight and stamina too. Better link of the final lap: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjePvNcu8n4 What's so funny? I think you missed the point. I'm saying it's more challenging to overtake on 4 wheels, which therefore makes it more exciting to me. In F1, overtaking was so hard they introduced DRS, which provides us with more of the exciting overtaking. On some tracks maybe making it too easy, but that's just during the first season on implementing it I'd hope. In F1, stamina matters as well. OK bikes have rider positioning, but that doesn't really make a difference to me sat on the sofa at home. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2011, 07:41 AM	#17
Waymninelia Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	Poor Hamilton fans, he's not even the best driver in his own team anymore... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2011, 08:31 AM	#18
worldofwarcraft Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Woah, says who? Regardless, Vettel could win 10 championships whilst in a coma driving that Red Bull. And Jenson Button could bring about world peace being the all round spiffing guy that he is. But people will still focus more on what Hamilton does or doesn't do... as you have aptly proved. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2011, 08:42 AM	#19
seatlyled Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Woah, says who? Regardless, Vettel could win 10 championships whilst in a coma driving that Red Bull. And Jenson Button could bring about world peace being the all round spiffing guy that he is. But people will still focus more on what Hamilton does or doesn't do... as you have aptly proved. So no possibility that Vettel is a true champion material then? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2011, 08:57 AM	#20
worldofwarcraft Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	So no possibility that Vettel is a true champion material then? That remains to be seen, naysayers have a great talent of focusing on the negatives when their driver of choice isn't getting all the glory. And for the first time ever, it feels good to be one. In short, it was all the car... and yes Webber is shite. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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