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Old 09-21-2012, 09:00 PM   #21
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Default Girls playing with Boys...Golf
Here is an interesting read......

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Old 09-21-2012, 09:02 PM   #22
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[QUOTE=Texasbrons;1629009]THere is an intriguing comment in there which is true. The golf ball doesn't care if it is being hit by a girl or by a boy. To be honest, I can't believe that we are having these discussions anymore. It would seem to me to be a pretty open and shut case. How many high school football teams, have girls playing on them all over the country. Granted, it's not seen in every school, but it's common enough that it isn't ground breaking anymore. There are even colleges with girls playing on the team now. If the school had a girls team, then I would say that is where she should be playing, and I would even temper that. If she is capable of hitting from the same tees as the boys and able to compete, let her play with the boys and school them. I didn't catch in the article if it said what tees she is playing from, so I'll assume that she is playing from the same tees, I don't think it said. Sounds to me like a few coaches are getting tired of their prized stud getting stomped on by this girl and so now they want to file a complaint. The fact of the matter is that most school golf teams have a wide and varied skill level from the one or two stars who are scratch to single handicappers and may have a chance to a scholarship all the way to the kid who is happy to get the ball off of the tee. That being said, the fact that she is female is irrelevant. There will be a handicap and skill set that she will match up with. Just like the girl playing football with the boys, my only caveat would be that she hit from the same set of tees. You Go Girl!! [/QUOTE]

The difference between a boy playing with the girls is like apples to oranges. The boys shouldn't be allowed to play with the girls because the tee it up closer to the hole and that gives the boy an advantage over the kids his age which are playing further back. With a girl playing with the boys she is technically at a disadvantage because she is playing further back than her female competitors competing on the girls team
Which way do you want it?

My example of eliminating the boys & girls designation takes care of that. The coach would field his best team, based on handicap, not by whether you are a boy or a girl. The only change that would need to be made is that the girls would have to reestablish their handicap based on men's slope/rating, which should be easy to do.
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:48 AM   #23
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I say let her play. As long as she plays the same tees as the boys. I played against a few girls in my HS career and they got to play from the ladies tees. If they play from the same tees I'm all for it.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:39 AM   #24
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I agree. Regardless of boy/girl designation, a coach should be given the opportunity to field the best team.

Maybe h.s.golf championships need to eliminate the boys & girls designation from the title, and go to something more akin to back/middle/forward tees.

Blue Team (varsity best regardless of boy or girl)
White Team (like the JV regardless of boy or girl)
Red Team (freshmen or those who can't break 100, regardless or boy or girl)

The problem with letting girls on the boys team is that the girls won't let boys on their team. Maybe the above idea eliminates that situation, at least for golf. Don't ask me about baseball/softball or gymnastics.
I like you thinking. That would probably work and eliminate most, if not all, of the controversy. And I won't hijack this thread with my opinion of the others as well. You could start a whole new thread that would go for years if you wanted to.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:07 AM   #25
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This kind of story makes my blood boil. The girl has no team for lack of teammates and decided to play on the boys team. I see no issue with it. If she is beating boys her own age then the boys need to get better. The coached need to get a clue and stop hiding behind a loop hole. I hope she continues to kick butt and wins a another title.
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:39 AM   #26
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There are multiple ways to look at it and not everyone is going to agree with either.

One one side, there is a boys team and a girls team. So, it could be argued that she shouldn't be allowed on the boys team. And, the "girls have been allowed to play football" arguement is not valid here, IMO. It's not "the boys football team". It's just "football team". There is no male/female designation.
You wrote this as I was writing mine. I have to disagree with this statement for two reasons. One is that since football is obviously a sport with bigger boys playing, faster and stronger and it is a contact sport, emphasis on contact, most girls cannot physically compete on the same field as the boys and thus there is not as much interest by the girls to play the sport, thus the following logic is that is why there is not a division between boys and girls in this sport at this time in high school. It's never been an option. In this case, there were not enough girls to sign up, so there is NO girls team, which makes the boys team the only golf team, thus by definition becoming "The Golf Team", not to boys golf team. If there were a current distinction between the boys and girls golf team, then I would say she should play with the girls even though she may be able to compete with the boys. And that brings up a whole new argument. Girls football teams are on the rise, and while I don't believe they will ever become mainstream, I do think that one day, in large school districts, you may find some schools with a girls division. That will also get decided by the almighty dollar as well though. Until that time, it renders the argument of girls/boys football moot since there is only one option. At this school, this year, there is only one option for golf as well.

You are probably right as well, that there was some kid who can barely get the ball off of the tee who didn't make the team and now his parents are crying. My advice is, get better than the number 10 kid on the team (assuming 5 var and 5 jv) and go out and make the team.
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:05 AM   #27
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We had a girl play on our Boy's HS Golf team my junior year. She was very good and she beat a lot of her opponents. She had no special rules for her. She played the back tees (often over 7000). She didn't play my senior year, choosing to play more AJGA events. I see nothing wrong with this.
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:47 AM   #28
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It really depends on what the state's HS athletic governing body decides. In TN, season play does not determine tournament seating, so what the coaches do during matches is their own decision. However, at the regional/district and state tournaments, there is a girls and boys division.

I had a girl golfer that played against the boys (from the white or blue tees) every year during the season. It was quite a sight and most boys or their parents did not complain, even when they were beat.
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:12 AM   #29
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I think you have to let them play. I coach the Boys and Girls team here. My girls team is made up of 2 players. I have them travel and play with the team. I think it is great for both. It allows the girls to play and with some stiff competition. Female athletes have come a long way and I think any chance we have to support girls is something we must do.

More important I hate the idea of someone who just wants to play this game getting turned away. How does this help the game of golf?
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:28 AM   #30
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THere is an intriguing comment in there which is true. The golf ball doesn't care if it is being hit by a girl or by a boy. To be honest, I can't believe that we are having these discussions anymore. It would seem to me to be a pretty open and shut case. How many high school football teams, have girls playing on them all over the country. Granted, it's not seen in every school, but it's common enough that it isn't ground breaking anymore. There are even colleges with girls playing on the team now. If the school had a girls team, then I would say that is where she should be playing, and I would even temper that. If she is capable of hitting from the same tees as the boys and able to compete, let her play with the boys and school them. I didn't catch in the article if it said what tees she is playing from, so I'll assume that she is playing from the same tees, I don't think it said. Sounds to me like a few coaches are getting tired of their prized stud getting stomped on by this girl and so now they want to file a complaint. The fact of the matter is that most school golf teams have a wide and varied skill level from the one or two stars who are scratch to single handicappers and may have a chance to a scholarship all the way to the kid who is happy to get the ball off of the tee. That being said, the fact that she is female is irrelevant. There will be a handicap and skill set that she will match up with. Just like the girl playing football with the boys, my only caveat would be that she hit from the same set of tees. You Go Girl!!
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