Need a ruling
 

Hey guys/girls I need some help with a ruling. Playing today and there are several holes on the course that are lined with thick trees but have no white or red stakes. One of my buddies hits a ball that we all see drift into the trees. He says that because the ball was lost he has to re-tee the ball. I said because there were no white (ob) stakes than all he had to do was drop somewhere on the line where the ball entered the trees no closer to the pin. What is the right ruling? I may be wrong but at least my way it would have helped all of us with our score. Thanks for the help. Hit them well!

Lost ball is stroke and distance, he was right

That's not necessarily correct. If bound by red, then yes, re-tee, white is a stroke and drop inside the white, as far as I know, no stakes and lost ball acts like white stakes. Stroke and drop within x feet of where the ball went in. Just like if you were to go for a Green over water, and it hit rough before going back into the water. You would drop where it hit, as opposed to where you were, as it hit land on the other side of the water. All that said, I could be very wrong, but this has always been my interpretation.

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white is OB which is stroke and distance. you seem to have red vs white confused

If there are no stakes it's a lost ball and you have to replay from where you played your last stroke with a penalty.

If white stakes it's out of bounds so again stroke and distance applies so you Play from where you played your last stroke again with a penalty.


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Youre backwards.


He plays 3 off the tee and hits 4 into the green.

No stakes, apply this:

If a ball is lost as a result of not being found or identified as his by the player within five minutes after the player’s side
or his or their caddies have begun to search for it, the player must play a ball, under penalty of one stroke, as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5).

And, "as nearly as possible at the spot..." well, from the tee :)

http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Rule-27/

That's what happened to Zach Johnson on the par 3 yesterday, right?

There is a difference between and OB and thick set of trees IS your playing partner had the option to announce and hit a provisional in hopes of finding his original ball, but without wanting to search, the results of a LB and OB are the same. You taking a penalty stroke and hitting from where you just hit from. If on the tee, you're hitting your 3rd shot.

This happened to me the other day. In my case, I did not want to look and find that ball because I knew (while saving a stroke) it probably would have cost me as I knew that ball was in jail wilth no hope of getting out.

My bad guys, learn something new everyday :)

Dan

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White stakes denote out of bounds, stroke and distance.

There was nothing in the local rules on the scorecard? Pretty lame tp have an unmarked hazard. Usually tree lines are lateral (red stake)

Thanks guys