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Old 07-15-2011, 05:44 PM   #21
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The luck involved in putting:

lucky to have good eyesight;
lucky to have good hand/eye coordination;
lucky to have the desire to be a good putter;
lucky to play on a course where luck is less of a factor.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:51 PM   #22
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The luck involved in putting:

lucky to have good eyesight;
lucky to have good hand/eye coordination;
lucky to have the desire to be a good putter;
lucky to play on a course where luck is less of a factor.
I'd say the last one is luck.

The first three are genetic.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:43 PM   #23
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If putting involved this much luck, the same guys would not be the best putters on tour year after year.
Luck in putting is no more to me than luck in any other shot in golf.
It is still about the same 3-4 things for me.
Tools fitting the player
Line
Execution
Stroke
Not sure how I missed this thread, but I will agree with this 100%. Bad golfers can make great shots, just like a guy with a terrible putting stroke could drain a 20 footer. Thats lucky.. but whats not lucky is the guy who practices and has the right equipment and a good swing will make a lot more of the 20 footers than the bad golfer.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:45 PM   #24
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I'd say if there's luck involved, it's luck in choosing the right line and speed.
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Old 07-15-2011, 08:55 PM   #25
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I'm in the not so much luck camp. Of course reading a green is a skill set as it can be learned and developed. There are of course uncontrollable acts of nature that have an influence but if you don't put yourself in that situation or knowing how that can influence it again then it still comes down to skill in the end.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:01 PM   #26
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lucky to play on a course where luck is less of a factor.
I think % of luck could be a ratio directlly correlated to how much you paid to play on that course.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:03 PM   #27
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I've really been working hard on my putting in the last 6 months. I even got Stan Utley's book on the Art of Putting. I have seen improvement and I've been proud of it. One of the guys I play with is..... well he's a downer flat and simple. I think he plays golf because he's not complaining enough at work or at home with his wife. LAst week he really pissed me off when I had a good day putting. Sure there was luck involved but I credit it mostly to better more consistent putting. I had two holes in a row where I drained a good 15-20 foot putts. Of course all I hear from his "Man you're so lucky today on the putting greens"
I tried to explain to him that I put the ball in a good position to get lucky but he wasn't hearing any of it.
So I told him "good Luck finding someone willing to play a round with you"
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:32 PM   #28
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The worse putter you are, the more luck is involved with making it. For me luck is 114%
Bingo! The pros are where they are because of 1000s of hours of practice, course knowledge and an understanding of outside factors that may effect their putts.
The guy that spends no time practicing and rolls in a 50 footer for par, that's lucky!! You get out of it what you put into it....IMO


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Old 07-15-2011, 09:42 PM   #29
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I'd like to think we all agree the more practice and skilled you are at the first three things, the better the odds of sinking the putt, however, I'm talking beyond that, there seems to be a certain amount of fortune in sinking a putt. If the putt is longer, the more these idiosyncrasies influence the putt and the more "luck" or chance is involved.

The goal is to improve the first three aspects so as to reduce the amount or "percentage" of luck involved with the ball dropping into the hole.

Maybe I'm overthinking this but there are times when I feel I've hit the perfect line at the perfect speed and the ball may just graze the hole, or vice versa, when I miss hit it and luckily it does go in.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:43 PM   #30
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The better condition the green, the less luck. If you're putting on dirt, weeds and recently aerated greens, making anything outside of 10' probably involves slightly more luck.
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