[kazinopartnerkae]

At my club we like to debate many different issues. Some of the golf related issues seem to be brought up more often than others. I'd love to get yall's answers to these 5 questions. And at the club it's almost like the answers are divided right down the middle. Maybe on THP one answer for each question will be more prominent.


(1) Where should the rake for the bunker be placed?
- Just inside the bunker
- Just outside the bunker
- No rakes at all


(2) If you find yourself in a sanded divot (not a bare divot) should it be considered GUR and should you be allowed a drop?


(3) Should you be allowed to flatten or tap down spike marks on a green that's in your "line"?

:Random Questions now:

(4) What was the better shot (better in your eyes could be skilled need to pull it off, what was on the line at the time, conditions and result, etc)? Phil Mickelson behind the tree on #13 at Augusta 2010 Masters or Tom Watson's chip in green-side #17 Pebble Beach 1982.

(5) Was Johnny Miller's final round of 63 at Oakmont to win the US Open by 1 the most impressive round of golf ever played??


Have Fun! Let the debates begin

[CGECngjA]

1. outside - on a side away from the center of the fairway
2. filled divot is not GUR - just hit it and don't whine about it
3. no - people should not be allowed to wear steel spikes ever anywhere so this problem goes away
4. Watson's chip - zero margin for error on that shot, if Phil misses the green with that shot he could still have won
5. Yes

[arreskslarlig]

1) outside
2) probably, but there are way too many variables that can come into play to make it a black and white answer.
3) Yes
4) I'll take Watson's. I have heard/read Phil talk about that shot and while difficult, standing over the ball, there wasn't much to it. The line that sticks out was something to the effect of it looked worse on TV than what it was. Watson had little green out of deep rough. Both tough shots but really hard to compare. Totally different type of situation/shot.
5) Maybe. Lots of rounds have been played. I haven't seen them all.

[uMG6uOSo]

1. Outside - away from the fairway
2. Just hit it, I play out of a divot anyway.
3. Normally if I see spike marks in my line, I'll walk along the line and tamp the ground down unless its like a 50' putt.
4. Watson's chip. Epic!
5. Either this round or the 2008 US Open with Tiger

[Enjoymms]

(1) Where should the rake for the bunker be placed?
Just inside the bunker, is my preference, that way the rake will not stop an errant shot from rolling in.


(2) If you find yourself in a sanded divot (not a bare divot) should it be considered GUR and should you be allowed a drop?
No

(3) Should you be allowed to flatten or tap down spike marks on a green that's in your "line"?
No

(4) What was the better shot (better in your eyes could be skilled need to pull it off, what was on the line at the time, conditions and result, etc)? Phil Mickelson behind the tree on #13 at Augusta 2010 Masters or Tom Watson's chip in green-side #17 Pebble Beach 1982.
Mickelson's

(5) Was Johnny Miller's final round of 63 at Oakmont to win the US Open by 1 the most impressive round of golf ever played??
It ranks among the most impressive, but it is too hard to distinguish the most impressive ever.

[kazinopartnerkae]

not that anyone cares but my answers are...

1) Just inside the Bunker
2) Yes - Sand in a divot mean its in the process of being repaired
3) No - sometimes its too hard to tell what made what marks.
4) Soooo close but what puts it over the top for Watson's chip is that he called a make to his caddy
5) Without question its the most impressive round ever. Its the hardest tournament at the hardest course on the fastest greens and he had to do it to win by 1.

[nintenda]

My answers:

1. Leave the rakes in the bunker please.
2. I hate hitting out of a divot or hitting out of one that's been sanded. I wish it was considered GUR.
3. I'm still not sure. I want to say no and yes, I guess I'll say no.
4. Phil's shot. I'm a Phil homer, and a lefty.
5. I suppose it was a great round. I have a hard time comparing golfers and their rounds from different eras. I can respect it for a quality round at a quality time at a quality venue with a quality field.

[k5wTvu9f]

At my club we like to debate many different issues. Some of the golf related issues seem to be brought up more often than others. I'd love to get yall's answers to these 5 questions. And at the club it's almost like the answers are divided right down the middle. Maybe on THP one answer for each question will be more prominent.


(1) Where should the rake for the bunker be placed?
- Just inside the bunker
- Just outside the bunker
- No rakes at all


(2) If you find yourself in a sanded divot (not a bare divot) should it be considered GUR and should you be allowed a drop?


(3) Should you be allowed to flatten or tap down spike marks on a green that's in your "line"?

:Random Questions now:

(4) What was the better shot (better in your eyes could be skilled need to pull it off, what was on the line at the time, conditions and result, etc)? Phil Mickelson behind the tree on #13 at Augusta 2010 Masters or Tom Watson's chip in green-side #17 Pebble Beach 1982.

(5) Was Johnny Miller's final round of 63 at Oakmont to win the US Open by 1 the most impressive round of golf ever played??


Have Fun! Let the debates begin

1.) The rakes should be placed inside the bunker so as not to prevent a ball from going into the bunker. If the ball lands near enough to the rake as to interfere with the shot, then the rake is able to be moved. No rakes at all is just silly.

2.) Yes, because that sand was put there for just that reason. To repair the ground. A ball should have to be fully in it though, not resting on the edge. Fully in.

3.) No, you cannot remove foreign objects (save a rake) from a bunker, so why should the spike marks be treated differently? I know the two things are different, but spike marks should have been repaired by the person who made them, as should ball marks.

4.) Phil's shot at the 13th because of the 'nads it took to hit it. He knows that if he doesn't carry that creek and hit the green, his chances are probably slim of winning. But because he makes the birdie (SHOULD'VE BEEN AN EAGLE, BUT WE ALL KNOW HE CAN'T PUTT) he wins the tournament.

5.) No. It was Arnies 65 at Cherry Hills to win the 1960 (I believe) US Open.

[SkHukV3N]

1. Rake in the bunker every time. Worst thing is when your ball is skimming past the edge of the bunker, hits the rake then goes in
2. Just hit it, to difficult to determine at times
3. Greens aren't made with bobbles, marks, holes or any other imperfections on purpose. I think every player deserves to have as good a roll on a putt no matter where they are on the green, so I say you can repair/tap whatever
4. Phil's shot
5. It was of course a great round, but most impressive ever?? Tough to say

[bredkumanfirst]

1. outside
2. filled divot is not ground under repair
3. no since you shouldn't be able to improve your line
4. Watson's chip
5. I didn't see the round so I can't really comment enough to know if that was the most impressive round ever.

[GECEDEANY]

1. Outside the bunker. Sure, it may prevent a ball from going in (I guess in my 46 years of golf I've seen that 10 times tops), but frequently the lie and stance will likely be as tough as a bunker shot. What I have had occur a few times that seemed really unfair was to have a ball roll into a trap and lodge under the rake on the downslope, leaving a far more difficult bunker shot than it should have.

2. Play the ball as it lies - divots are a rub of the green, not GUR.

3. Spike marks should be a thing of the past, so this (at least in these parts) is moot.

4. Tom Watson's shot was WAAAYYYY more difficult - Tiger's chip-in on #16 at Augusta is closer in comparison than Phil's shot. I believe almost any player in the field could have hit the shot Phil hit. Of course the bravado involved with Phil's shot cannot be underestimated - from nearly the same position in the Greg Norman fiasco vs. Faldo, Greg laid up (but he still birdied, which says a lot about whether Phil's shot was necessary).

5. Everyone knows the greatest round ever played in a major was turned in by the infamous Roy McAvoy.

[Edifsdubs]

1. Just outside the bunker.

2. No. Rules violation.

3. No. Rules violation.

4. Phil's shot hands down.

5. Yes. In the top 10 all time major rounds.

[Thomas12400]

1. Rakes should be outside and somewhere close to where my ball went in

2. Play divots as you get them, it is a skill you can learn.

3. I hate spike marks but fixing them might allow someone to gain an advantage by marking their line. Careful with this one.

4. Mickelsons shot looked more impressive and he had other options, but Watsons chip was much tougher from a percentage standpoint.

5. Millers round was great but hard to say it was the best.

[KuznehikVasaN]

1) just outside
2) hitting out of a sanded divot isnt really much different than hitting a normal shot
3) no
4) both great shots but mickelsons resonates way more with me for some reason
5) a great round indeed but there are a couple other incredible rounds that come to mind, and it's not about score necessarily, mostly about the situation