[EarnestKS]

I don't think anyone is talking about a swing overhaul during a round, but I think everyone does some swing doctoring on the course when things go bad.

Kevin

[67Irralphaisa]

I don't think anyone is talking about a swing overhaul during a round, but I think everyone does some swing doctoring on the course when things go bad.

Kevin

I agree. We tweek as we go. When I read the OP, I was thinking more along the line of "overhaul". I do remember Butch once saying that Tiger could be the only player in the world that could possibly get by without a coach. He has the ability to feel everything about his swing, and I know I could not do it without another set of eyes.

[Vokbeelllicky]

Like many others I can only diagnose a few specific things, anything else I will totally ruin the round.

[trubreTab]

if you dont correct your bad shots your whole round will be bad

[67Irralphaisa]

if you dont correct your bad shots your whole round will be bad

Is it possible to over correct or mis-diagnose?

[trubreTab]

of course but would you rather hit bad shot after bad shot?

[V8V8V8]

Like a lot of others it's mostly set up with me. I like to play out bit of an open stance so I tinker there. I also mess with where my hands are address.

Kevin

My first thought after 2 bad shots in a row is to look at my setup. I have a tendency to close my shoulders/chest to the target line but keep my legs square. This leads to a too-inside takeaway. That is always the first culprit I check.

[V8V8V8]

I agree. We tweek as we go. When I read the OP, I was thinking more along the line of "overhaul". I do remember Butch once saying that Tiger could be the only player in the world that could possibly get by without a coach. He has the ability to feel everything about his swing, and I know I could not do it without another set of eyes.

Yeah; I was definitely thinking simple tinkering I guess. I would leave the overhauling for the range.

[caseferter]

i like to believe i "know" whats going on - but then i go the the range after a round and think-- ok the ball was right of my target... so i must have kept the face opened too much at impact... i practice for awhile... think ive fixed it.. show up at my next lesson and actually see the video and think - jesus THATS what this looks like haha..

I feel one thing - and think this is happening or that is happening - but until i see definitive video proof - i have no idea. a picture is worth a 1000 words IMO.

So i try to just keep it simple on the course - aim away from trouble - minimize the bad shots. One good shot a hole is all ya need for par; one great one and your staring down birds or better.

i cant say how many times i flub a tee shot - hit an ok 2nd shot - then a really good chip - and an easy putt for par == just thinking jeeez thats a par?!? with that tee shot?

or hit a good tee shot right down the middle - - hit the approach in fat... and it goes 60 yds instead of 85...chip it within 4 feet - knock down the put -- nother par --- with a fat wedge shot that went 25 yards short.

so my renewed efforts this year are to improve the short game; limit the high scores; minimize the bad shots - and hopefully drop some strokes.

but when i start auto correcting stuff mid round - eek - i dont transition well IMO

[gariharrr]

Well I know for my part cg , I can't look at swing correction on the course from the perspective of a single swing element either. In my case if I try to do that especially out on the fairways I will likely end up chasing my tail for eighteen holes. it is simply too easy for me to overemphasis one swing element over another and before I know it I am totally lost. So during a round, my perspective is never based on the idea that I will try to or even can correct a specific swing element by focusing in on it.

In my case, if I am making bad swings, I come at the problem from the perspective of what I need to do to make good swings. It is not uncommon for me to break the swing down into the set up or address, backswing and then downswing because many of my downswing problems have their genesis somewhere in my set up or my backswing. However I will not try to break my swing down any farther than that at least not while I am out on the course and I will rarely do it at the range either.

So as an example, if I am making bad swings, I might ask myself to insure that my set up is correct and I am arriving at the top in a good position to make the transition but that is it. My perspective is never something like, "well my club face must have been open at impact so what swing element must I correct to keep that from happening". In fact as a part of the process I try to forget everything about the bad swings that I can. I will try to wash them from my head. I have been at this long enough now that I already have plenty of bad swing experiences that I can flesh up if I want to. So I don't need more.

It is a complicated issue and I am probably not explaining it well. The point I am trying to make is that I can't do what you are suggesting either. Maybe others commenting about swing correction on the course are capable of it but I am not. I can make corrections on the course but only using the method that I am describing here.