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Old 09-02-2011, 11:35 PM   #1
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Default Operation Hawai'ian Divot
One of my top missions during my vacation on Maui is to come back with a nice, truly-carved divot from each course that I'll be playing. That being said, I need some advice as to how to keep these divots alive for the duration of the stay, plus the trip back.

Here is what I'm thinking:
1. Store divots in sandwich bags to be left open unless being transported.
2. Keep divots moist by spraying them with a water mist, as needed, while being left in the protective baggie

Of course I'll keep them exposed to as much sun as possible. I'm thinking any 'ol sturdy 'dozen box' of golf balls should work as a hardcase for packing on the flight.

Upon my return home, they will be transplanted into a memorial "divot garden" that I'll be starting.

I'm sure I'll have to go through some sort of process in order to bring such vegetation back to the mainland, unless I want to go the smuggling route. I always did think of myself as a 'Han Solo' type of guy…

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Old 09-03-2011, 12:09 AM   #2
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Are you this guy?

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Sounds like your plan is a good one.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:20 AM   #3
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ummm, I dont know if I would personally take divots from courses. I guess its your personal preference but on every cart or scorecard I have ever seen it specifically says, "replace your divots". I guess they ask that of you for a reason. I am not coming down on you about your idea, I just wouldnt do it.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:31 AM   #4
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Last time I was golfing in Hawai'i the scorecards specifically said to not replace the divots, but to fill them with the provided seed/sand mix instead. So if that is the case again, I'm assuming they probably won't mind if I take one divot home with me.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:32 AM   #5
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Last time I was golfing in Hawai'i the scorecards specifically said to not replace the divots, but to fill them with the provided seed/sand mix. So if that is the case again, I'm assuming they won't mind if I take one divot home with me.
got ya, again, I wasnt telling you not to take them, I was just stating my opinion. But, I guess if they do not want them replaced then take them all...haha
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:38 AM   #6
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got ya, again, I wasnt telling you not to take them, I was just stating my opinion. But, I guess if they do not want them replaced then take them all...haha
I wonder if TSA would be agreeable to a "living agricultural product" being in a checked or carryon bag? I know Hawaii is a US State. But, it technically is overseas and couldn't there be issues with "contamination" from unwanted vegetation?
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:41 AM   #7
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I wonder if TSA would be agreeable to a "living agricultural product" being in a checked or carryon bag? I know Hawaii is a US State. But, it technically is overseas and couldn't there be issues with "contamination" from unwanted vegetation?
thats a good question!!
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:00 AM   #8
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That is my primary concern... I don't want to smuggle contraband to the mainland!
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:02 AM   #9
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That is my primary concern... I don't want to smuggle contraband to the mainland!
Might call the airlines and see what they say. Or the airport in Hawaii.
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:30 AM   #10
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All luggage is inspected at the airport by the United States Department of Agriculture. From their website, here is a partial list of items that can NOT be transported from Hawaii to the Mainland:

Items from Hawaii Not Permitted into the U.S. Mainland:
Berries of any kind, including coffee berries and sea grapes
Cactus plants or parts
Cotton and cotton bolls
Fresh flowers of gardenia, jade vine, and Mauna Loa
Fresh pulpy fruits and vegetables (except pineapple)
Kikania and fresh pandanus
Live insects and snails
Plants in soil
Seeds with pulp and fresh seed pods
Soil
Sugarcane
Swamp cabbage (unchoy)
Sweet potato (raw)

Looks like the prohibition on transporting soil is going to be the one that ruins your plans. Sorry.

-Steven
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:49 AM   #11
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All luggage is inspected at the airport by the United States Department of Agriculture. From their website, here is a partial list of items that can NOT be transported from Hawaii to the Mainland:

Items from Hawaii Not Permitted into the U.S. Mainland:
Berries of any kind, including coffee berries and sea grapes
Cactus plants or parts
Cotton and cotton bolls
Fresh flowers of gardenia, jade vine, and Mauna Loa
Fresh pulpy fruits and vegetables (except pineapple)
Kikania and fresh pandanus
Live insects and snails
Plants in soil
Seeds with pulp and fresh seed pods
Soil
Sugarcane
Swamp cabbage (unchoy)
Sweet potato (raw)

Looks like the prohibition on transporting soil is going to be the one that ruins your plans. Sorry.

-Steven
That's an interesting list, I would love to hear the reasoning behind some of that if people know. (cotton or cotton balls?)

That said, I think the soil and plants in soil will throw a wrench in what you are doing Han.
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Old 09-03-2011, 02:11 AM   #12
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Florida has had a real problem with invasive plant species, not native to the region.
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:26 AM   #13
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That's an interesting list, I would love to hear the reasoning behind some of that if people know. (cotton or cotton balls?)
I think cotton has some nasty insects that destroy the crop if they invade the fields. Cotton balls = something you buy in a drugstore, cotton bolls = are the cotton with pod or whatever it grows in on the plant (I think no expert here).

To O.P. nice thought but I can only see a lot of grief when trying to reenter the mainland if you attempt to smuggle divots and fail.
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Old 09-03-2011, 03:51 AM   #14
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All luggage is inspected at the airport by the United States Department of Agriculture. From their website, here is a partial list of items that can NOT be transported from Hawaii to the Mainland:

Items from Hawaii Not Permitted into the U.S. Mainland:
Berries of any kind, including coffee berries and sea grapes
Cactus plants or parts
Cotton and cotton bolls
Fresh flowers of gardenia, jade vine, and Mauna Loa
Fresh pulpy fruits and vegetables (except pineapple)
Kikania and fresh pandanus
Live insects and snails
Plants in soil
Seeds with pulp and fresh seed pods
Soil
Sugarcane
Swamp cabbage (unchoy)
Sweet potato (raw)

Looks like the prohibition on transporting soil is going to be the one that ruins your plans. Sorry.

-Steven
DAMN! Looks like I'll have to steal tee box markers instead!

j/k of course
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:45 PM   #15
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I think cotton has some nasty insects that destroy the crop if they invade the fields. Cotton balls = something you buy in a drugstore, cotton bolls = are the cotton with pod or whatever it grows in on the plant (I think no expert here).

To O.P. nice thought but I can only see a lot of grief when trying to reenter the mainland if you attempt to smuggle divots and fail.
Yeah boll weevils used to be a problem many years ago. They would wipe whole fields out in early stages of growing. Now it's mostly cutworms and aphids that are problems to the cotton crop. However by law there are so many boll weevil traps that have to be put around certain acreage of cotton that agricultural agency checks them on regularly during the season. Also, they have to cut the cotton stalks within a certain time after picking or they are fined. This is due boll weevil also but not sure why though.
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Old 10-02-2011, 10:15 PM   #16
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Have fun in Maui, I just got back Monday. Make sure you play Wailea Gold and Emerald. Beautiful views and the courses are in great condition.
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Old 10-02-2011, 11:57 PM   #17
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A random idea that I'm throwing out there is take a little of grass seed mix from the course. Didn't check if that was legal to the airlines.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:08 AM   #18
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I used to work at a plant nursery. As long as you have a nice chunk of dirt underneath you should be ok. Keep it moist and yea keep the plastic bags OPEN if you can. Heat is your enemy, not moisture inside those bags. We used to keep "sheets" of grass for sale in the parking lot. The grass could survive for a long time in just that half inch of dirt just fine. It's the heat coming off the parking lot cement that was the problem.

BTW!!! CHECK IMPORTING PLANT LAWS COMING IN FROM HAWAII!!! I know from experience its very stringent but, honestly I think they're more concerned about bugs and plants coming INTO hawaii.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:38 AM   #19
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I used to work at a plant nursery. As long as you have a nice chunk of dirt underneath you should be ok. Keep it moist and yea keep the plastic bags OPEN if you can. Heat is your enemy, not moisture inside those bags. We used to keep "sheets" of grass for sale in the parking lot. The grass could survive for a long time in just that half inch of dirt just fine. It's the heat coming off the parking lot cement that was the problem.

BTW!!! CHECK IMPORTING PLANT LAWS COMING IN FROM HAWAII!!! I know from experience its very stringent but, honestly I think they're more concerned about bugs and plants coming INTO hawaii.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:45 AM   #20
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Didn't you ever see that Brady Bunch episode series when they took the tiki from Hawaii? Just asking for bad juju.
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