[Barryrich]

Read this:

Etiquette

Straight from the Rules of Golf.

This was the best post in the thread. Maybe we should get back to answering the OP's question. I think we've beaten the cell phone thing to death.

[lomonel]

Mainly just exhibit common courtesy. If you have a question about anything out there, ask the other experienced golfers in your group.

Leave the course in better shape than you found it. Repair the greens like previously posted. Replace divots you cut in the fairway/rough if possible or fill with the sand/seed mix if availabe on the carts.

This was the best post in the thread. Maybe we should get back to answering the OP's question. I think we've beaten the cell phone thing to death.

Good call Smalls. I was guilty of the banter without viewing the OP's question.

[SeelaypeKet]

If you say so.

But in the 42 years I've been playing this game, I cannot recall a single time that I needed to call a clubhouse for anything, but that's me.

And it is very much the conversation that disrupts things. I can recall many occasions where I and others were waiting for someone to finish talking before the rest of us could putt or play a shot. I've also been with people who have had to excuse themselves from playing an entire hole (or holes in the case of one guy) because their conversation was so important that they couldn't continue. I have to wonder that if someone's world is so complicated that they can't even play an entire round of golf because of phone calls, then why did they come out to the course in the first place?

As far as the the "24/7", business crowd is concerned, all I can say is that in the decades prior to cellular phones, there have surely been other "important" people who played golf yet they somehow managed to either stay employed or in business despite the 4 or 5 hours they spent beyond the reach of conventional communication.

Now how did THEY manage to do that?

If someone claims to be in such demand that they can't be without their cell phone for a round of golf -- especially on a Sunday, no less -- then they're either self-important egomaniacs far too wrapped up in their own narcissism or they're in dire need of a less demanding job.

Either way, I pity them.

Leave the silly thing in the car and enjoy a quiet afternoon for a change; that's part of the reason for playing golf, isn't it? The world will still be spinning on its axis despite your being incommunicado for the time it takes to watch a football game.


In my opinion, of course.



-JP

I understand what you're saying, but are you suggesting that prior to cellphones people were dropping like flies on golf courses across the country more so than they are now?

Sorry, but I just don't believe that.



-JP

Once again technology seems to be a problem for you. THe fact that we can use it for an emergency is bad? Perhaps you do not work in teh business world where despite things worked 3 decades ago, the fact that you can make life easier by having access is bad thing?

Im sorry, but my work is done constantly via email. How does that disturb you on a course. It certainly does not slow me down as any person that has ever played with me will attest to. But your comment is flat out rude and unfair. You work in construction and landscaping as you have said before. Perhaps your job does not require you to be available, but my job does.

I dont play on Sundays, as that is my time with my wife. I play during the week and can do just that because of my ability to get emails while out on the course. It has nothing to do with being self involved or narcissistic.

According to your post, I am either self involved or I should find a new job because it cannot possibly be needed. Flat out rude and not necessary. Have all the facts before speaking maybe. The fact is that my job and consulting jobs like mine evolved over time due to ability to be available.

But again, as you have stated before, you have played very little golf on the course in close to two years. Maybe being out there would give you an idea that having a cell phone with you on the course does not have to mean bothering people.

[WFSdZuP3]

This was the best post in the thread. Maybe we should get back to answering the OP's question. I think we've beaten the cell phone thing to death.

1+

Don't:
Stand in the line of sight of someone who is putting and make sure your shadow does not disturb his/her line.
Offer golf tips/lessons unless it is asked for or you know the person (friend)
Swear out loud.
Be a sore loser.
Pick up people's ball even if it's a Pro V1.

Do:
Try to keep up with the group ahead.
Slow down and be quiet when approaching someone who is about to swing.
Show sportsmanship.
Enjoy the game and pay for beer on the 19th hole.

[saopinax]

Sorry, back to the cell phone thing.

I'm a fairly young guy, who stays in touch w/ quite a few people via cell phone. Hell, I've NEVER had a landline phone since I was out of my parents house. The people my age and younger have had cell phones since high school. We're used to using our phones for about everything.

That being said.

A good buddy of mine (not much of a golfer) thought that it was alright to text message and use his phone SOCIALLY on the golf course.

I waited until the 2nd hole to tell him to either turn the phone off or he can get another cart and golf by himself.

He turned the phone off.

Seriously, your social life can freakin be put on hold for the 3 and a half hours that we're out there.

I'm a pretty young guy but I can have a pretty "old fashioned", hard as* mentality when it comes to some things. Golf etiquette is one.

[attishina]

1. be mindful of everyone on the course... dont do things that you wouldnt want done... dont be a distraction

2. keep pace with the group in front of you... dont keep the guys behind you waiting all day if nobody is in front of you(see #1) lettem play thru or play faster

3. leave the course better than you found it... if everyone were to repair 2 ballmarks a piece... the greens would be in unbelievable condition everytime everyone would go out and play (kinda pertains to rule 1)


as far as the cell phone discussion... see rule #1... if you need it for emergencies... leave it off till you need it... if you need it for work... keep it in silent mode... and it does make a handy gps

[Flieteewell]

Once again technology seems to be a problem for you. THe fact that we can use it for an emergency is bad? Perhaps you do not work in teh business world where despite things worked 3 decades ago, the fact that you can make life easier by having access is bad thing?

Im sorry, but my work is done constantly via email. How does that disturb you on a course. It certainly does not slow me down as any person that has ever played with me will attest to. But your comment is flat out rude and unfair. You work in construction and landscaping as you have said before. Perhaps your job does not require you to be available, but my job does.

I dont play on Sundays, as that is my time with my wife. I play during the week and can do just that because of my ability to get emails while out on the course. It has nothing to do with being self involved or narcissistic.

According to your post, I am either self involved or I should find a new job because it cannot possibly be needed. Flat out rude and not necessary. Have all the facts before speaking maybe. The fact is that my job and consulting jobs like mine evolved over time due to ability to be available.

But again, as you have stated before, you have played very little golf on the course in close to two years. Maybe being out there would give you an idea that having a cell phone with you on the course does not have to mean bothering people.

No JB, it's not technology, it's rudeness versus courtesy.

Maybe someone else's life is so filled with decision-making moments that they absolutely need to be plugged in all the time, but I simply don't want to have to hear it. Unfortunately, for evey person who may truly need to be in touch with the world, I'll bet that there are a dozen or more whose lives wouldn't change a bit if they threw the silly phone in the water.

An emergency situation is fine as would be a "must take" phone call from a client. But far too often, all I hear are plans for trips to the mall, whether or not Dave is bringing the beer or if Charlie returned the hedgeclippers yet. And again, I don't even care if the conversations are inconsequential, I do care that I or others have to either listen to them or wait for them to end before we can continue with what WE came to the course to do.


-JP

[gundorana]

JP

You must have missed the saftey part of having a cell phone.
Heart attacks are more common than you think on the golf course and the 5-10 mins you spend driving to the club house (or heaven forbid you have to walk) can mean the difference between someone living or dying.

Good point, I had an older man die on me on a fairway last year. We used our phone to call 911 and the clubhouse.

It must be a west coast thing with all of the hills on the courses out here but I have had carts run out of juice on me quite often out here. I would say it happens 3 or 4 times a year.

I also kind of agree with JP. I hear some stupid conversations while I am on the course.

[SeelaypeKet]

No JB, it's not technology, it's rudeness versus courtesy.

Maybe someone else's life is so filled with decision-making moments that they absolutely need to be plugged in all the time, but I simply don't want to have to hear it. Unfortunately, for evey person who may truly need to be in touch with the world, I'll bet that there are a dozen or more whose lives wouldn't change a bit if they threw the silly phone in the water.

An emergency situation is fine as would be a "must take" phone call from a client. But far too often, all I hear are plans for trips to the mall, whether or not Dave is bringing the beer or if Charlie returned the hedgeclippers yet. And again, I don't even care if the conversations are inconsequential, I do care that I or others have to either listen to them or wait for them to end before we can continue with what WE came to the course to do.


-JP

That is not what you said. YOu said people that need to be connected via email are narcisstic or self involved. This to me is no different than smoking. And of course we know how you feel about that. Courtesy does not come in only when beneficial. My job requires me to be plugged in. Yours may not. I never said I spoke on the phone at the course. I dont actually. But I do return my important emails if need be. How in the world does that affect you out there.

[TerAlelmlor]

I carry my cellphone with me at all times and yes sometimes it rings on the golf course. Ok so my 91 year old Mom who lives by herself needs me to assist her for whatever reason. Am I going to worry about sinking that freaking birdie putt to win $10.00 or am I going to answer that cell phone and get Mom some Medical attention or help her for whatever reason? I don't have a buisness to worry about but I have the only Mom I will ever have and she depends on me. You bet your sweet arse I will run to the cart and answer that fricking phone quicker than the old comic book character FLASH! Cell phones are highly necessary to people who put people over golf. If golf is your first priority then leave the fricking phone in the car. My partners know what my priority is and I'm sure buisness folks like JB have more important stuff than making a silly putt to win a nassau or whatever. Got to go change my drawers now cause they are in a wad ...........