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Old 11-03-2010, 06:57 PM   #1
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I don't really understand the mindset of someone who takes mulligans. Even if I play in a charity outing and buy them, I don't use them. I have found that when I do - I hit the same bad shot twice. I think most people do. I also admire anyone who can make a great recovery 2nd shot. Wouldn't you rather do that than a do-over? I'm not talking about playing a provisional here - I'm talking about when a ball is in play, but someone doesn't like it so they hit another one.
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:58 PM   #2
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That's why we call it a Maul again. LOL
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:06 PM   #3
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I've tried to shy away from this and just make a better 2nd shot if I do poorly on my first shot. I agree Diane, if I try to re-do my shot, it usually will end up in the same place as the first one and the shot is just as bad if not worse!
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:50 PM   #4
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I don't really understand the mindset of someone who takes mulligans. Even if I play in a charity outing and buy them, I don't use them. I have found that when I do - I hit the same bad shot twice. I think most people do. I also admire anyone who can make a great recovery 2nd shot. Wouldn't you rather do that than a do-over? I'm not talking about playing a provisional here - I'm talking about when a ball is in play, but someone doesn't like it so they hit another one.
If there is a swing flaw I can immediately identify, I will tee it up again (mainly par 3 iron shots, rarely the sliced driver though haha). If I have no idea what I did wrong, chances are I will repeat the same flaw so I don't even bother. I don't do it when there are others behind me waiting to play. In AZ I play a lot of twilight hours so I normally have free roam of the course. I will always play my first one though for scoring.

For me its just more on course practice. I'll repeat though so I don't get beat up too much, I don't play that way when people are waiting behind me.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:54 PM   #5
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hmm, when i play with my golfing regulars we usually take two off the first tee and that's it. however, my old man uses a mulligan per 9. he does this so he doesn't dive bomb a specific hole. he figures he's out there to have a good time, not to punish himself after an awful tee shot. if i hit a bad shot, i might drop another ball down and hit it again but i always play the original ball.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:05 PM   #6
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hmm, when i play with my golfing regulars we usually take two off the first tee and that's it.
Do you just not enter your scores from those rounds?
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:13 PM   #7
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Do you just not enter your scores from those rounds?
nope. some days of golf are just for fun and practice and some days are for money. money days are straight up. do you ever improve your lie in the fairway? wipe mud off of your ball?
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:20 PM   #8
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One mully per 9 holes is what we usually play in my group. Though the goal is not to use any of them. Takes some of the pressure off in a friendly, plus if you manage to save them till the end, you can use it to try something you would not normally do. (ie tee it way higher or lower than normal or see if you actually can clear the water with a certain club, try out a fade shot, use a driver for the first time etc etc. )

They don't get used you go into the rough or woods- but when you when you hit a shot 10 yards in front of the tee box and bury it in the bank of a creek or send one 200 yards straight up - but 10 yards forward- its nice to know you can get a do-over.

Obviously if any of us use one we are not counting the round towards a handicap.

Strangely since we have adopted this as a 'rule' everyone's tee shots are getting much much better. IN fact thinking about it, the last two times I played with them none of us used any mully's.

More relaxed=better golf.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:22 PM   #9
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nope. some days of golf are just for fun and practice and some days are for money. money days are straight up. do you ever improve your lie in the fairway? wipe mud off of your ball?
No - there are days I don't enter my score and I tell people at the beginning of the round that I'm playing for fun. The only thing I do differently on those days is if I hit into the water - I'll drop on the other side. I don't improve my lie because it gives me a chance to practice without concern for my score. I'm also a glutton for punishment.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:25 PM   #10
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No - there are days I don't enter my score and I tell people at the beginning of the round that I'm playing for fun. The only thing I do differently on those days is if I hit into the water - I'll drop on the other side. I don't improve my lie because it gives me a chance to practice without concern for my score. I'm also a glutton for punishment.
I hear ya. i'm kind of the same way. i figure that i deserve to be in the position i'm in so i need to deal with the consequences, kind of like life. i don't like seeing someone totally take themselves out of the enjoyment of the game (like my dad) so i'm usually pushing him to hit another ball, or drop on the other side of the water. i like to enjoy my time with him on the golf course.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:05 PM   #11
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I don't really understand the mindset of someone who takes mulligans. Even if I play in a charity outing and buy them, I don't use them. I have found that when I do - I hit the same bad shot twice. I think most people do. I also admire anyone who can make a great recovery 2nd shot. Wouldn't you rather do that than a do-over? I'm not talking about playing a provisional here - I'm talking about when a ball is in play, but someone doesn't like it so they hit another one.
I know this will shock you, but I don't take mulligans either. Just don't do it. Can't remember the last time I took one. Even in a 2-man better ball tournament where we were allowed to buy up to 2 mullies per side (money went to charity), I bought them then forgot to use them. It just doesn't fit my approach to the game.

nope. some days of golf are just for fun and practice and some days are for money. money days are straight up. do you ever improve your lie in the fairway? wipe mud off of your ball?
Nope, don't do any of those things either. I'd rather play golf.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:30 PM   #12
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I know this will shock you, but I don't take mulligans either. Just don't do it. Can't remember the last time I took one. Even in a 2-man better ball tournament where we were allowed to buy up to 2 mullies per side (money went to charity), I bought them then forgot to use them. It just doesn't fit my approach to the game.

Nope, don't do any of those things either. I'd rather play golf.
On a practice round, or a round where nothing is on the line, there is absolutely nothing wrong w/ improving your lie, wiping mud off the ball, taking a couple of mulligans, etc etc.

It's a practice round for a reason. You're out there trying to improve and/or work on things and simply play care-free golf.

I don't see the need to get carried away w/ rules EVERYTIME you step on a golf course.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:34 PM   #13
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I can't remember the last time I used one. I take all my strokes into account of my score to see if I am improving or not.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:51 PM   #14
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On a practice round, or a round where nothing is on the line, there is absolutely nothing wrong w/ improving your lie, wiping mud off the ball, taking a couple of mulligans, etc etc.

It's a practice round for a reason. You're out there trying to improve and/or work on things and simply play care-free golf.

I don't see the need to get carried away w/ rules EVERYTIME you step on a golf course.
You aren't going to improve your game if you are always playing from a perfect lie or hitting a pristine ball. The only way to play better golf is to play golf... not winter golf, or improve your lie golf, but golf as it's defined in the rule book. You play any way you want, but you won't get better at golf by practicing some other game.

I practice on the range or in the short game practice area. When I'm on the course, I play golf.

You might be shocked to find out that I can play care-free golf and still play by the rules. That way the game doesn't feel any different when I am playing a serious round.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:54 PM   #15
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When im doing a practise round my Mulligan 9/10 times is wayy better.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:57 PM   #16
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You aren't going to improve your game if you are always playing from a perfect lie or hitting a pristine ball. The only way to play better golf is to play golf... not winter golf, or improve your lie golf, but golf as it's defined in the rule book. You play any way you want, but you won't get better at golf by practicing some other game.

I practice on the range or in the short game practice area. When I'm on the course, I play golf.

You might be shocked to find out that I can play care-free golf and still play by the rules. That way the game doesn't feel any different when I am playing a serious round.
I couldnt of said it better. I try to stick to the rules to the best of my knowledge and I still find it fun and relaxing. I dont really care how others play as long as they are having fun and its not for money.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:00 PM   #17
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You aren't going to improve your game if you are always playing from a perfect lie or hitting a pristine ball. The only way to play better golf is to play golf... not winter golf, or improve your lie golf, but golf as it's defined in the rule book. You play any way you want, but you won't get better at golf by practicing some other game.

I practice on the range or in the short game practice area. When I'm on the course, I play golf.

You might be shocked to find out that I can play care-free golf and still play by the rules. That way the game doesn't feel any different when I am playing a serious round.
Good for you.

But some of us are a bit more relaxed, still have lots of fun and are still improving too.

So good for us as well.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:12 PM   #18
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You aren't going to improve your game if you are always playing from a perfect lie or hitting a pristine ball. The only way to play better golf is to play golf... not winter golf, or improve your lie golf, but golf as it's defined in the rule book. You play any way you want, but you won't get better at golf by practicing some other game.
I agree with Fourputt. How will you improve if you don't take the opportunity in a practice round to play the difficult shots.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:13 PM   #19
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You aren't going to improve your game if you are always playing from a perfect lie or hitting a pristine ball. The only way to play better golf is to play golf... not winter golf, or improve your lie golf, but golf as it's defined in the rule book. You play any way you want, but you won't get better at golf by practicing some other game.

I practice on the range or in the short game practice area. When I'm on the course, I play golf.

You might be shocked to find out that I can play care-free golf and still play by the rules. That way the game doesn't feel any different when I am playing a serious round.
Who said anything about ALWAYS?

I usually do play w/ something on the line, so it's not like I'm out there ALWAYS playing by "my" rules.

I was speaking more of the beginning golfers, or the high HCP golfers who probably aren't going to gain ANYTHING by playing by the rules to the T.

Those folks need all the help and confidence they can get so I don't see a problem for them to improve their lie. Or move the ball a foot or two to get out from behind a tree. This game is hard enough, why not let the high HCP'ers play how they want to? And if it moves them along quicker, all the better.

When I was a beginner and a high HCP'er, I would pick my ball up, and/or even skip a hole to get out of some guys' way. I would consider that good etiquette. BUT, I think I was breaking a rule or two for doing that, right?

I mean, are we on tour here, or what?
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:15 PM   #20
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Nike - We can't read your mind you know. You need to tell us you were talking about beginners. I agree with you that they should pick up, etc. That's the way I was taught too.
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