[agrismhig]

Apparently.

[aaafluochugh]

That's very funny Smallie. Is anyone?

Kinda a contradiction in terms...





...btw I like the bananas over here...



I'm an idiot...

[Tarrccrys]

That is no where near average on our course. We have small greens and so do most of the courses around here other than the resort courses.

Same here, a couple of resort courses have larger greens, i think it's to make the vacationing players feel good about a G.I.R. But by & large most of the greens on the courses I play are no more than 30-35 feet across. BTW I deal with tape measures all day long in my job, measuring everything from 1/16" up to 200'.

Perhaps but I think as many people overestimate the length of their putts like people overestimate the length of their drives. Not everyone is an expert estimator.

Bingo.

[pBiRXp8u]

Same here, a couple of resort courses have larger greens, i think it's to make the vacationing players feel good about a G.I.R. But by & large most of the greens on the courses I play are no more than 30-35 feet across. BTW I deal with tape measures all day long in my job, measuring everything from 1/16" up to 200'.

My job involved a lot of measuring too. When I was on the job I worked with everything from 1/10,000" (.0001) to about 10 feet. When you work with measurements day in and day out, you DO get pretty good at estimating. Even though I've been retired now for 3 years, the eye stays with me. 33 years of practice doesn't just fade out.

[Kragh]

I measure greens off of satellite photos and know exactly the width and depth before I play any golf course and it is rare, extremely rare, for any green to be smaller than 15 yards in any one dimension and then only on a very short par 3.

[outfinofulpv]

I measure greens off of satellite photos and know exactly the width and depth before I play any golf course and it is rare, extremely rare, for any green to be smaller than 15 yards in any one dimension and then only on a very short par 3.

You said the average was 20 yards in the last post. Check out through the satellite images the 1st 3 holes at my course.

Par 4 - Tiny green that is less than 10 yards wide
Par 5 - Less than 12 yards wide
Par 3 - Less than 10 yards wide.

Just some examples from my course and basically all the courses around me are no where near your average of 20 x 20 yards. That is not to say that they are not 20x20 where you live, but just that they are not around here. Private clubs around here all have tiny postage stamp greens. Resort courses around here have huge greens.

[Blotassefesek]

I would say 20x20 is pretty close to the average here,links courses probably a bit bigger,with twice as many breaks.

[Kragh]

You said the average was 20 yards in the last post. Check out through the satellite images the 1st 3 holes at my course.

Par 4 - Tiny green that is less than 10 yards wide
Par 5 - Less than 12 yards wide
Par 3 - Less than 10 yards wide.

Just some examples from my course and basically all the courses around me are no where near your average of 20 x 20 yards. That is not to say that they are not 20x20 where you live, but just that they are not around here. Private clubs around here all have tiny postage stamp greens. Resort courses around here have huge greens.

According to a golf course architect based here in Arlington the average green size he builds is over 6,000 square feet or approximately 700 square yards which equates to about 20 x 35. He builds all kinds of course - publics, munis, resort courses and exclusive privates all over the country but I think that is probably on the high side as far as green size is concerned even for this area. The only golf courses around here with greens of the size you indicate are par 3 courses, my guess of an average of 20 x 20 is probably a little smaller than average here.

[pBiRXp8u]

I just measured our greens on Google Earth. Foothills Golf Course is a public muni built in 1972. The largest green is about 75'w x 93'lg. The smallest is about 54'w x 60'lg. Most seem to be about 60'w x 90'lg. And I don't really consider these greens to be exceptionally large.


That certainly leaves plenty of room for lots of 40 foot putts, especially since they love to cut the holes within about 10' to 15' from the edges. Misclub on a front or back pin and you can easily have a 70 foot putt.

[Uzezqelj]

Why does any of this matter?

Why does one need to affix a specific distance to a putt at all?

I tend to look at putts as either short, medium or long and I really have no desire to know specifically how long each putt is or was. For the record, building things as I do in my business, I'm more than capable of accurately estimating the length of a putt and if questioned about the length of a given putt, I'm sure my answer would be well within the ballpark.

But I don't understand why I or anyone else needs to know how long a putt is right down to the foot or inch. Putting is not like hitting a regular golf shot and knowing the specific length of a putt will do little to help someone decide how to "play that shot" because unlike a shot that simply flies through the air, a putt encounters a variety of conditions and situations such as slope, grain, grass length, the moisture level of that grass, spike marks and ball marks, all of which will affect how a putt is planned and struck.

As such, it's doubtful that any two putts - even those which appear similar - could or should be planned or executed in the same way so the notion of quantifying or appraising such efforts based upon length is absurd. A thirty-foot putt made on a smooth, flat green with lush, well-watered grass is far different than a putt of equal length made on a dry, severely sloped green riddled with spike and ball marks.

So I think it's silly to even attempt to apply any sort of equable or quantum level of measure when "comparing putt sizes", (the innuendo of which being mostly what such things are about to begin with).



-JP