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yespkorg 08-13-2012 05:11 AM

Exposition of user member "Al Saadiqeen"
 
Are the (Saudi Arabia's ) the true (Muslims ) ??

feAilei1 08-13-2012 05:39 AM

Salams. To answer your question a true muslims is one who truely follows Allah's swt word and the ways of the prophet pbuh right from the heart and in actions. Muslims are judged by Allah on there intentions and what is in their heart not where they are from or where they live.

pavilionnotebook 08-13-2012 07:33 AM

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Salams. To answer your question a true muslims is one who truely follows Allah's swt word and the ways of the prophet pbuh right from the heart and in actions. Muslims are judged by Allah on there intentions and what is in their heart not where they are from or where they live.
Can we stay on the Subject Plzzz which is ( Are the (Saudi Arabia's ) the true (Muslims ) ??

bunkalapa 08-13-2012 07:38 AM

I just gave you the answer as in to what defines a true muslims. There is no correct answer to your Question. Yes some are and no some aren't it varies from the individual. Like I said true muslims are not based in any one country. Your question has no yes or no answer

lollypopz 08-13-2012 07:44 AM

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I just gave you the answer as in to what defines a true muslims. There is no correct answer to your Question. Yes some are and no some aren't it varies from the individual. Like I said true muslims are not based in any one country. Your question has no yes or no answer
Are you out to Sabotage this post because your answer not accepted ? Or is it you fear the true would come out ???

Buhoutsoupfap 08-13-2012 07:48 AM

Truth about what?
To answer you again
Yes: some saudi's are true muslims

No: not all saudi's are true muslims

It's that simple.

pimbertiemoft 08-13-2012 07:53 AM

How do you define a true muslim? http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...icon_smile.gif there are true muslims all over the world not just in saudi

Yartonbler 08-13-2012 07:59 AM

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Are you out to Sabotage this post because your answer not accepted ? Or is it you fear the true would come out ???
your question is ridiculous.

a persons deen is not judged by his nationality or where he lives. it is judged by his beliefs and actions. and we take our beliefs from the quran and sunnah.

there is NO yes or no answer to your question.

but it seems that you are not really looking for an answer, but really you want to start a debate on other peoples answers. if this is the case then why dont you just get to the point instead of getting there through some back handed way. if you do not have an ulterior motive then your answer is there in the first 5 sentences of this post.

ibiDb4uu 08-13-2012 08:04 AM

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Are you out to Sabotage this post because your answer not accepted ? Or is it you fear the true would come out ???
Why ask a question so it innocently if you already think you know the anwser and will react in a hostile manner to someone who anser in a manner other than what you expected?

It's Ramadan perhaps the real question to be asking is "Am i a real muslim and why am i starting a thread that would likely lead to backbiting of fellow muslims? Are my fasts or the fasts of the other members of this forum really that cheap?"

Backbiting is backbiting whether in Ramadan or not, but in Ramadan we should be especially vigilant not to waste too much time in useless things.

NerbuitW 08-13-2012 08:13 AM

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Why ask a question so it innocently if you already think you know the anwser and will react in a hostile manner to someone who anser in a manner other than what you expected?

It's Ramadan perhaps the real question to be asking is "Am i a real muslim and why am i starting a thread that would likely lead to backbiting of fellow muslims? Are my fasts or the fasts of the other members of this forum really that cheap?"

Backbiting is backbiting whether in Ramadan or not, but in Ramadan we should be especially vigilant not to waste too much time in useless things.
Stop all the excuses Will-ya

Enladalusange 08-13-2012 08:18 AM

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Stop all the excuses Will-ya
do you really not understand how much of a fool you are? do you really not understand the foolishness of your question?

you wish people to make a blanket statement on a WHOLE nation?

just get to the point and tell us what you are trying to get at.

TriamiCaw 08-13-2012 08:43 AM

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do you really not understand how much of a fool you are? do you really not understand the foolishness of your question?

you wish people to make a blanket statement on a WHOLE nation?

just get to the point and tell us what you are trying to get at.
The only way to tell a fool is when they open their mouth and you just did . Fear of the truth is something isn't it .

Xewksghy 08-13-2012 09:04 AM

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The only way to tell a fool is when they open their mouth and you just did .
not really. you can also tell a fool by his actions. it is not necessary for him/her to open their mouths.



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Fear of the truth is something isn't it .
you havent even said anything yet you idiot, so what exactly are you accusing me of being afraid of???



i am seriously very intrigued about this 'truth' that you speak of. so can you get to the point and tell me what it is.

L6RLnyfl 08-13-2012 09:11 AM

okay. just did some googling.

are you from the Nuwaubu???

DP5Ups8o 08-13-2012 09:13 AM

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not really. you can also tell a fool by his actions. it is not necessary for him/her to open their mouths.





you havent even said anything yet you idiot, so what exactly are you accusing me of being afraid of???



i am seriously very intrigued about this 'truth' that you speak of. so can you get to the point and tell me what it is.
You have alot of mouth hideing behind the computer

SkatrySkith 08-13-2012 09:13 AM

Nuwaubian Nation - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwaubian_Nation

The Nuwaubian Nation or Nuwaubian movement (over the years known as "Ansaru Allah Community", "Holy Tabernacle Ministries", "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors", and "Yamassee Native American Moors of the Creek Nation"),[1] is a religious organization founded and led by Malachi (Dwight) York. It is classed as a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center.[2]

York began founding Black Muslim groups in New York in 1967, and has changed his teachings and the names of his groups many times. In the late 1980s, he abandoned the "Muslim" flavour of his movement in favour of Ancient Egypt and extraterrestrial themes, in 1993 leaving Brooklyn for Eatonton, Putnam County, Georgia, where he built an Egypt-themed compound called Tama-Re.[3]

By 2000, the "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors" had some 500 adherents,[4] and drew as many as 5,000 visitors attending "Savior's Day" (York's birthday). But adherence declined steeply after founder Dwight York was sentenced to 135 years in federal prison in April 2004 for child molestation.[2][5] The Tama-Re compound was sold under government forfeiture and demolished in 2005.

The movement was highly eclectic and entirely dependent on York's ever-changing pronouncements, described as "an extra-large dose of Egyptian schlock, served with a side dish of intergalactic mumbo jumbo" by Bill Osinski, author of a 2007 book on York and his arrest and eventual conviction. York's writings and pronouncements over the years combined ideas from a wide range of New Age, esotericism and occultism, pseudoscience, besides basic Afrocentrism and black supremacism.[6]

The term Nuwaubu is found in "The Holy Tablets", a 1700-page document published by York in 1996, as the term for "the way of life" of "supreme beings".[7] Nuwaubian teachings are sometimes also referred to as Nuwaubu/Nuwaupu, Wu-Nuwaubu, "Right Knowledge", "Sound Right Reasoning", "Overstanding", "Blackosophy" or "Factology".[citation needed] The term "Nuwaubianism" has also been used in some publications.[dubious – discuss]

gastabegree 08-13-2012 09:14 AM

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okay. just did some googling.

are you from the Nuwaubu???
Ass you daddy , So you fear the Nuwaubu too LOLOLOLOLOL

highattainlet 08-13-2012 09:15 AM

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You have alot of mouth hideing behind the computer
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melissa 08-13-2012 09:16 AM

its the grand booboo himself!



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...DwightYork.jpg


the guy in the middle!

currently imprisoned on a 135 year sentence for child molestation.

realfan87 08-13-2012 09:19 AM

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Nuwaubian Nation - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuwaubian_Nation

The Nuwaubian Nation or Nuwaubian movement (over the years known as "Ansaru Allah Community", "Holy Tabernacle Ministries", "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors", and "Yamassee Native American Moors of the Creek Nation"),[1] is a religious organization founded and led by Malachi (Dwight) York. It is classed as a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center.[2]

York began founding Black Muslim groups in New York in 1967, and has changed his teachings and the names of his groups many times. In the late 1980s, he abandoned the "Muslim" flavour of his movement in favour of Ancient Egypt and extraterrestrial themes, in 1993 leaving Brooklyn for Eatonton, Putnam County, Georgia, where he built an Egypt-themed compound called Tama-Re.[3]

By 2000, the "United Nuwaubian Nation of Moors" had some 500 adherents,[4] and drew as many as 5,000 visitors attending "Savior's Day" (York's birthday). But adherence declined steeply after founder Dwight York was sentenced to 135 years in federal prison in April 2004 for child molestation.[2][5] The Tama-Re compound was sold under government forfeiture and demolished in 2005.

The movement was highly eclectic and entirely dependent on York's ever-changing pronouncements, described as "an extra-large dose of Egyptian schlock, served with a side dish of intergalactic mumbo jumbo" by Bill Osinski, author of a 2007 book on York and his arrest and eventual conviction. York's writings and pronouncements over the years combined ideas from a wide range of New Age, esotericism and occultism, pseudoscience, besides basic Afrocentrism and black supremacism.[6]

The term Nuwaubu is found in "The Holy Tablets", a 1700-page document published by York in 1996, as the term for "the way of life" of "supreme beings".[7] Nuwaubian teachings are sometimes also referred to as Nuwaubu/Nuwaupu, Wu-Nuwaubu, "Right Knowledge", "Sound Right Reasoning", "Overstanding", "Blackosophy" or "Factology".[citation needed] The term "Nuwaubianism" has also been used in some publications.[dubious – discuss]
thankyou for the information have to look into this little more . So the Saudi Arabia's fear these people too hummmmmm this is the 2nd time I have heard this name here .


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