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Old 08-14-2012, 09:34 PM   #21
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I did ask a scholar about this, he told me to contact Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller directly regarding the meaning of the sentence in Reliance on the Traveller. I don't know how to do that. Looking at the board, it appears that it is punishable via payment of blood money but to whom? I feel like we're missing something here.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:43 PM   #22
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I did ask a scholar about this, he told me to contact Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller directly regarding the meaning of the sentence in Reliance on the Traveller. I don't know how to do that. Looking at the board, it appears that it is punishable via payment of blood money but to whom? I feel like we're missing something here.
No not blood money can be paid if the parents kill the children. Or similarly if there are no relatives of the murder victim, I think a ruler or governor would decide on a punishment. It does not mean that they get away with it at all.
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:06 PM   #23
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al-Salamu `Aleykum,

A father killing his child gets two punishments, the first punishment in this life is that he has to pay Diyyah, in one narration a father killed his son so `Umar (ra) punished him by making him give away 100 camels, and he does not inherit his son or take any of his blood money.

The second punishment is in the after-life, he goes to hell.

And the ruler or Ameer or Caliph may increase the punishment as he sees fit, such as jail for life and so on...
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:29 PM   #24
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al-Salamu `Aleykum,

A father killing his child gets two punishments, the first punishment in this life is that he has to pay Diyyah, in one narration a father killed his son so `Umar (ra) punished him by making him give away 100 camels, and he does not inherit his son or take any of his blood money.

The second punishment is in the after-life, he goes to hell.

And the ruler or Ameer or Caliph may increase the punishment as he sees fit, such as jail for life and so on...
Jazakallah Khair to you and Brother Abu Zakir - It's cleared my mind up a lot now. I remember a non-Muslim quoting me that book (online) and stating that meant Muslims condoned honour killings. I honestly didn't know how to respond because I did not understand the meaning of the book. But Alhumdullilah I have my imaan and I knew there would be a sound explanation, and now I have that.
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:57 PM   #25
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al-Salamu `Aleykum,

A father killing his child gets two punishments, the first punishment in this life is that he has to pay Diyyah, in one narration a father killed his son so `Umar (ra) punished him by making him give away 100 camels, and he does not inherit his son or take any of his blood money.

The second punishment is in the after-life, he goes to hell.

And the ruler or Ameer or Caliph may increase the punishment as he sees fit, such as jail for life and so on...
end of thread InshaAllah
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