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When the national anthem of your country is played; say at a sporting event.

Is it haram for a muslim to stand up and show respect?

[Eromaveabeara]

When the national anthem of your country is played; say at a sporting event.

Is it haram for a muslim to stand up and show respect?

Good question.
I suppose it will depend upon the wordings of the anthem.
God save the Queen is a supplication and would seem alright to yours truly.
Indian national anthem is a set of few stanzas from a poem written in praise of the then king of Great Britain George V.
It includes phrases that assert the Kind George V is the decider on the destiny of India which is clear kufr.
Allah (SWT) is the decider of everyone's destiny.
It is possible to wiggle out of the situation by asserting that we are no more referring to King George V as the decider of India's destiny. We are now referring to God as the decider of the destiny of India.

I say that the question is good because all the national anthems have diverse backgrounds and all the backgrounds are ideological. Ideologies usually clash with faith. Clearly mater has to be decided on individual basis. And you do need Muftis to do that. So I keep my peace.

[AndyColemants]

I don't. Don't uncover my head for it either. "Patriots" usually give me flak at football games and whatnot but I don't care, I'm big enough and intimidating enough that a crosswise glare shuts them up. If I'm with my wife or with people who don't want me to cause a scene, I make it a point to go to the bathroom or something when the flag worshipping nonsense is taking place.

[Opislossy]

Hail Basil!

[cxddfrxc]

When the national anthem of your country is played; say at a sporting event.

Is it haram for a muslim to stand up and show respect?

Standing for a national anthem IS different from standing for an individual, such as a loved one, a leader, the dead, etc.

While there is text addressing standing for the latter, there is not a direct text addressing national anthem. As a result, there is a matter of interpretation regarding what is a national anthem, what is the concept of 'standing' as a required act of 'respect' for an anthem of a nation state specifically.

Here is one prominent fatwa:

The scholars of the Standing Committee were asked: Is it permissible to stand to show respect to any national anthem or flag?

They replied:

It is not permissible for the Muslim to stand out of respect for any national anthem or flag, rather this is a reprehensible innovation which was not known at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) or at the time of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs (may Allaah be pleased with them), and it is contrary to perfect Tawheed and sincere veneration of Allaah alone. It is also a means that leads to shirk and is an imitation of the kuffaar in their reprehensible customs, and following them in their exaggeration about their presidents and in their ceremonies. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade imitating them.

And Allaah is the Source of strength; may Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (1/235).

http://www.************/en/ref/11187...ional%20anthem

There are fatawa which permit it, but they are weaker on account of failing to recognize the significance of nationalism and the modern nation state as an entity in contradiction with Islam.

As for the Prophet of Allah :saaw: is translated to have said: whomever calls for 'asabiyah' (tribalism, nationalism, racism) is not from among us, whomever fights for 'asabiyah' is not from among us, and whomever dies for asabiyah is not from among us (sahih from Sunan Abu Da`ud rh).

And Allah knows best.

[Adimonnna]

Yes a good question. All these national anthems and flags are invented by someone...sometimes they were paid to invent one. Why would any human being who knows this give respect to something invented like that?

Example:
I create a flag,and some music, I say it is part of our nation, others in government think it is a good idea, they adopt it and play the music and display it everywhere and they educate everyone to also show respect to these symbols. It is collective delusion.

The idea of a nation in modern nation-states was completely invented. People in power invented them, they invented shared histories and traditions and they use the education system, mass media like newspapers, television etc. to create this collective myth of a unified and common 'national culture'. Prior to the nation state people were highly heterogeneous speaking very different dialects of the same language sometimes living only a few miles apart from each other. People travelling to a village 10 miles away may have felt like they were in a foreign land. All of this diversity had to be reduced in order for that national culture with a central government to form...the state education system and technology helped to create this homogeneity in national cultures. All of it is based on myths. In political geography they study which part of a country is the dominant part projecting its culture as the norm nationally. In Britain it is the South East, London and home counties area. The people who live here and their culture is projected across the whole nation via technology and education to make it uniform. In actual fact people in the north are different, as they are in other parts but this is prevented from expression by the dominant power. This is why Nationalism and giving too much emphasis to the nation is foolishness. However it is good to support the nation in its good things that it does, but to criticise it publicly of the bad things that it does.

[Prosocorneliay]

I don't. Don't uncover my head for it either. "Patriots" usually give me flak at football games and whatnot but I don't care, I'm big enough and intimidating enough that a crosswise glare shuts them up. If I'm with my wife or with people who don't want me to cause a scene, I make it a point to go to the bathroom or something when the flag worshipping nonsense is taking place.

MashaAllah brother! May Allah grant you steadfastness on the guidance, ameen.
May Allah SWT - we need more like you

[Tazqoaap]

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[daguy]

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Lets stand up to this flag^

[Bvghbopz]

Some people on this thread have adamantly said they would refuse to stand up when their countries national anthem is played or the flag is raised at a sporting event.

Yet, I would venture to say, that when their countries football/soccer team has just scored a point in the game. They will stand and cheer like crazy. Especially if their favorite player was the one who made the goal.

So what's the difference?

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^ That's a good point.

[JaK_MarkoV_Pi]

Some people on this thread have adamantly said they would refuse to stand up when their countries national anthem is played or the flag is raised at a sporting event.

Yet, I would venture to say, that when their countries football/soccer team has just scored a point in the game. They will stand and cheer like crazy. Especially if their favorite player was the one who made the goal.

So what's the difference?

Ah! Thats a very silly comparison brother

[Thomas12400]

Ah! Thats a very silly comparison brother

How so............??

[CxofxJFm]

World cup soccer teams all have their countries flag on their uniforms.

In fact, their uniforms are usually in their countries national flag colors.

So how is cheering your nation's team and cheering it's flag any different?

They are both representing the nation.........

[SiM7W2zi]

assalamu alykum

Cheering an actual goal or a Touchdown is no way same as standing up to flag worshipping!!

huge difference is that u are cheering an athelete for there ability's and there hardwork at a physical acheivement.

[AntonayPina]

Cheering an actual goal or a Touchdown is no way same as standing up to flag worshipping!!

That's absurd.

People who stand for their countries flag are not worshipping the flag.

[ibiDb4uu]

Some people on this thread have adamantly said they would refuse to stand up when their countries national anthem is played or the flag is raised at a sporting event.

Yet, I would venture to say, that when their countries football/soccer team has just scored a point in the game. They will stand and cheer like crazy. Especially if their favorite player was the one who made the goal.

So what's the difference?

The difference is that in the former case we assist to a ritualized cerimony which is very similar to worshipping - in fact it's derivated from freemason "civil rites" which during the enlightment where a tool to further people from religion.

While in the latter case it's just people standing up as an emotional reaction of joy, and in fact shouting and jumping - typical reactions of joy and happiness - are also common. While during the national anthem people listens motionless and in a "religious-cerimonial silence".

[Dndjzirw]

Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall

Vietnam what? Are you proud of having invaded a foreign country who never threatened your and slaughtering countless of civilians?
You should really dump all such un-Islam cultural baggage away.
But what I get from your posts are just mainly provocations.

[frkksptn]

While during the national anthem people listens motionless and in a "religious-cerimonial silence".

You are entertaining if nothing else. LOL

[unsamiSlini]

Vietnam what? Are you proud of having invaded a foreign country who never threatened your and slaughtering countless of civilians?
You should really dump all such un-Islam cultural baggage away.

Thanks for the advice brother.

I'll put it in the circular file next to my desk.