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Old 06-03-2012, 02:09 PM   #1
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As-salamu alaykum.

I have some questions about abrogation in the Qur'an.

1) Can someone explain this concept to me in a simple but detailed way? My understanding now is that later verses were revealed that abrogated/cancelled earlier revealed verses in the Qur'an.

2) Is there a widely agreed upon list of which verses abrogate others? If not, are there any more famous examples of verses which abrogate others that I should be especially aware of as a Muslim?

JazakAllah Khayran for all of your help.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:12 PM   #2
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Bro.

This has been explained well by Saad here: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...n-the-Qur%92an
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:23 PM   #3
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It is also explained in more detail in the Tafseer of verse number 106-107 of Suratul Baqara in Maariful Quran:

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Old 06-30-2012, 02:12 PM   #4
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^Thank you for both of your replies. In the discussions you linked me to, there are mentions of the number of verses considered to have been abrogated. Is a list of these available?

Also, in the Tafseer of verse number 106-107 of Suratul Baqara in Maariful Quran, it is mentioned that scholars have reduced the number of verses considered to have been abrogated from the number of verses considered to have been abrogated by earlier scholars because of a change in what is considered to be naskh by today's scholars. I'm sure I'm just not reading something correctly, but is this difference between classical scholars and today's scholars any sort of problem?
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:51 PM   #5
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^Thank you for both of your replies. In the discussions you linked me to, there are mentions of the number of verses considered to have been abrogated. Is a list of these available?

Also, in the Tafseer of verse number 106-107 of Suratul Baqara in Maariful Quran, it is mentioned that scholars have reduced the number of verses considered to have been abrogated from the number of verses considered to have been abrogated by earlier scholars because of a change in what is considered to be naskh by today's scholars. I'm sure I'm just not reading something correctly, but is this difference between classical scholars and today's scholars any sort of problem?

This is what I have understood.
-There is no difference whatsoever between the classical scholars and contemporary scholars in the verses of the Quran which we have now. Because thats kufr.
-The abrogated verses were never passed down from the Sahabah to others. They were simply forgotten.
-The difference of opinion mentioned here is 'how many number' of verses were abrogated. This difference is only due to revising the definition of 'Naskh' by the later scholars.


Allahu alam.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:52 PM   #6
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all for the information here.

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Old 08-01-2012, 08:49 AM   #7
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-The difference of opinion mentioned here is 'how many number' of verses were abrogated. This difference is only due to revising the definition of 'Naskh' by the later scholars.
This is what I understood, too. I guess what I'm wondering is whether or not it's a problem that later scholars redefined naskh from what the earlier scholars had defined it as. Is there any problem or potential danger in this?
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:06 PM   #8
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This is a famous example of abrogation in Sahih Al-Bukhari:

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 416:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

(The tribes of) Ril, Dhakwan, 'Usaiya and Bani Lihyan asked Allah's Apostle to provide them with some men to support them against their enemy. He therefore provided them with seventy men from the Ansar whom we used to call Al-Qurra' in their lifetime. They used to collect wood by daytime and pray at night. When they were at the well of Ma'una, the infidels killed them by betraying them. When this news reached the Prophet , he said Al-Qunut for one month In the morning prayer, invoking evil upon some of the 'Arab tribes, upon Ril, Dhakwan, 'Usaiya and Bani Libyan. We used to read a verse of the Qur'an revealed in their connection, but later the verse was cancelled. It was: "convey to our people on our behalf the information that we have met our Lord, and He is pleased with us, and has made us pleased." (Anas bin Malik added Allah's Prophet said Qunut for one month in the morning prayer, invoking evil upon some of the 'Arab tribes (namely), Ril, Dhakwan, Usaiya, and Bani Libyan. (Anas added Those seventy Ansari men were killed at the well of Mauna.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:48 PM   #9
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can some one please tell me if the verse "there is no compulsion in religion" has been aborrogated? as according to ibn baaz it has been, and that now u are required to forcefully convert non muslims in islamic states.

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