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19*And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20*And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. 21*And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 22*Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 23*He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. 24*And they which were sent were of the Pharisees. 25*And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? I'm discussing with my Christian friend. It looks crystal clear that at the time of John the Baptist (Yahya (as)) the Jews were still looking for three people to come and we both agree the Christ is Jesus (as). In another place Jesus says John is Elias and here John denies it. It's for Christians to work out (... John came in the spirit of Elias). For "the prophet" it's evident it's a third person? The best response I've heard is if this prophet was a non Jew why ask a Jew (John)? Perhaps since John says "no" twice then out of desperation the Jews ask him? The other silly response is that the Jews had misunderstood the prophecies and so were awaiting three instead of two people. Really! ![]() Further if the prophet refers to Jesus, well he is not known as "The Prophet" since if you mention that term to a non Muslim with some knowledge of world religions he would associate the term with "The Prophet of Islam - Muhammad". Jesus is known as "The Messiah", "God's Son", "Second Person in the Trinity", "The Word of God", etc. I don't think even the Pope has a solid response? |
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I could give you a really good response that supports where you are headed..... and is also supported by other scripture in the Bible (both OT and NT).... but my beliefs would not be supported by any Jew nor Christian, and they may only partially be liked by Muslims. This is something I have studied, but I am actually going to hold my tongue. I apologize for jumping into your can of worms when I have no present intention to pick them up. There is a more going on than is directly mentioned within the scriptures.
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^Please do share. I and I'm sure many others here would be very interested. Maariful Quran had something to say about the study of other religious texts, such as the Bible: "In so far as contents of the book concerned agree with what the Holy Qur’an has to say on the subject, we may accept the statement as true, otherwise spiritual etiquette requires an average Muslim to keep quiet and not meddle with things which he is not likely to understand. As for reading the sacred books of other traditions, it should be clearly borne in mind that a comparative study of this nature requires a very special aptitude which is extremely rare, and hence demands great caution." After some of the posts I have seen on the forum recently, I am hesitant to discuss anything Biblical. But please do not take it personally, because it isn't. |
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I could give you a really good response that supports where you are headed..... and is also supported by other scripture in the Bible (both OT and NT).... but my beliefs would not be supported by any Jew nor Christian, and they may only partially be liked by Muslims. This is something I have studied, but I am actually going to hold my tongue. I apologize for jumping into your can of worms when I have no present intention to pick them up. There is a more going on than is directly mentioned within the scriptures. 7:157. "Those who follow the Messenger, The unlettered Prophet, Whom they find mentioned In their own (Scriptures),— In the Law and the Gospel;—..." |
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