[Cgnebksb]

Why can't they work in their countries of origin? I know they do already but they should focus there instead of coming to peaceful Muslim societies who already have enough scholars, masajid, television channels, literature etc to remind them about the deen.


One can just take a look at the mess the Muslim societies in South Asia are in because of 101 sects and groups. This should not be exported to other Muslim countries..spare them the fitnah!

they don't raise fitnah anywhere except where intolerant people are living who fight them just because they are there. all they do is stay away from things which divide the ummah and focus on things that unite it. only extremist intolerant people can have a problem with that. and they go to other countries because it is not given that everywhere the work of tableegh is done equally among other reasons. in some countries like brazil and spain the tabligh work is to be done urgently.
internet dawah or televison dawah and even a masjid in the locality cannot work without door-to-door dawah to real people.

[Nmoitmzr]

I'm sure there are many Muslims in their country of origin who could do with reminders.. they should focus there instead of coming to peaceful Muslim societies who already have enough scholars, masajid, television channels, literature to gain more understanding of the religion, plus these are an arabic speaking Muslim people, so they can understand the Qur'an and ahadeeth easily.

One can just take a look at the mess the Muslim societies in South Asia are in because of 101 sects and groups. This should not be exported to other Muslim countries..spare them the fitnah!

If understanding Arabic is all it took to be a good Muslim, there would not be a single non-Muslim Arab alive today and all Arabs would be miles ahead of any non-Arab in terms of adherence to Qur'an and Sunnah. If you're calling people who call Muslims towards the basics of Islam a fitnah, your hypocrisy has obviously blinded you. The jamaat does not indulge in politics, does not indulge in issues of difference, but calls only to the basics of Islam. There is no talk about necessarily following a madhhab, no talk about insulting this or that group, no talk about ideas that divide. This is an obligation for all.

Also, the first purpose of going into jamaat is to rectify yourself. These brothers obviously had to sacrifice a lot to go to Eritrea, which itself is a jihad against the nafs. Also, what "101" sects are you talking about? There are fewer groups/sects amongst the South Asians (whose population is more than the Arabs) than there are amongst Arabs.

[Mugflefusysef]

Al hamdu lillah managed to find this in English:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/403885/t...il-since-1993/

[SergZHy67]

I'm sure there are many Muslims in their country of origin who could do with reminders.. they should focus there instead of coming to peaceful Muslim societies who already have enough scholars, masajid, television channels, literature to gain more understanding of the religion, plus these are an arabic speaking Muslim people, so they can understand the Qur'an and ahadeeth easily.

Comes down to basic math, really. If someone goes out in tabligh and da'wah to Eritrea for a stipulated time of 4 months or 40 days and then goes back to their locality and does the same thing that they did in Eritrea, then where are they spending most of their time in da'wah and tabligh? (Does that sound like a SAT question?)

One can just take a look at the mess the Muslim societies in South Asia are in because of 101 sects and groups. This should not be exported to other Muslim countries..spare them the fitnah!

The founders and the majority of the workers in da'wah and tabligh are all from ahlus sunnah wal jama'ah. One of the objectives in da'wah and tabligh is to stay away from engaging the public in things that generally cause disunity amongst Muslims.


Would you mind reading a book written in Arabic about the purposes of da'wah and tabligh? I can give you a link. Majjanan ya'ni

Or do you have everything figured out?

[tpJKhY8Z]

I'm sure there are many Muslims in their country of origin who could do with reminders.. they should focus there instead of coming to peaceful Muslim societies who already have enough scholars, masajid, television channels, literature to gain more understanding of the religion, plus these are an arabic speaking Muslim people, so they can understand the Qur'an and ahadeeth easily.

One can just take a look at the mess the Muslim societies in South Asia are in because of 101 sects and groups. This should not be exported to other Muslim countries..spare them the fitnah!

I ask for forgiveness on behalf of these musim brothers who are in jail for almost 2 decades. Atleast have sympathy for their families. Their children are waiting for them

You claim that this country has many privileges.
1. Islam reached before others.
2. they have very good scholars.
3. they have good media.

But just basic knowledge of Islam is missing. Innocents are in jails for decades and no local scholar, knowledgeable muslims took care of these muslims. On the day of qiyamah, if they ask, why did we spend time in jail. Why local muslims didn't help us to get us released.

Let the locals prepare of answers.

On that day, one cannot boast of; "we had islamic knowledge, good resources, good scholars". Because it is the day of justice.

[insoneeri]

Deep is the ignorance of Idil_ not to speak of the prejudice [which she can't put into words or probably is hesitant].

I request members not to waste their time as one elder said to me the other day at the markaz: People aren't ignorant of the benefits of the work [of tabligh] but only feign ignorance.

You can't argue with such people. You can only make duas for them.

Period.

[Phassetus]

I'm sure there are many Muslims in their country of origin who could do with reminders.. they should focus there instead of coming to peaceful Muslim societies who already have enough scholars, masajid, television channels, literature to gain more understanding of the religion, plus these are an arabic speaking Muslim people, so they can understand the Qur'an and ahadeeth easily.

One can just take a look at the mess the Muslim societies in South Asia are in because of 101 sects and groups. This should not be exported to other Muslim countries..spare them the fitnah!

WOW, What an ignorance...
let me relate to you regarding albania... a country.. with around 80% muslims... just recently a jamath arrived and related their pligh...
some places have a population of 5000 ppl... only 1 masjid.... with just 14 ppl for jumah... ppl hardly pray, masjids have bars attached.. one musalli came to masjid intoxicated...

But, oh !! they know arabic ??? they have the famous muhaddith to their credit... then what happened ?

[PriernPayorse]

WOW, What an ignorance...
let me relate to you regarding albania... a country.. with around 80% muslims... just recently a jamath arrived and related their pligh...
some places have a population of 5000 ppl... only 1 masjid.... with just 14 ppl for jumah... ppl hardly pray, masjids have bars attached.. one musalli came to masjid intoxicated...

But, oh !! they know arabic ??? they have the famous muhaddith to their credit... then what happened ?

Idil_ happend.

[NADALA]

today was a very bad day for modernists. on the other thread abdulwahhab and ahmad12 comprehensively thrashed that modernist unknownentity over taliban and here idil_ was resoundingly refuted.
i felt almost sorry for her. until i went back a few pages and read what she wrote.

sister, y u no listen to us?

[Markdogas]

It doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree with sister Idil, the response of one brother would've been enough and should not be repeated over and over by different persons........
A few days left to the blessed Month and see how people occupy themselves with senseless discussion and worst of all is that they take pride in it.

[evarekataVame]

I have been blessed to be able to replicate the equivalent or less than an atom of the great sunnah of the prophets to strive in the path of Allah.
These blessed souls are tested to a max I can not begin to comprehend.
'oh my beautiful brothers, you embarked on the most blessed of life's journeys which few are chosen for, Allah decided to accept you inshAllah and thus gave you a struggle that replicates his beloved Yusuf (peace and blessing be upon you). Just a little while and you shall taste just delights that will make your suffering a walk in the park ameen.'

[Plonnikas]

....
'oh my beautiful brothers, you embarked on the most blessed of life's journeys which few are chosen for, Allah decided to accept you inshAllah and thus gave you a struggle that replicates his beloved Yusuf (peace and blessing be upon you). Just a little while and you shall taste just delights that will make your suffering a walk in the park ameen.'...

Subhan-Allah

[Nifoziyfar]

I have been blessed to be able to replicate the equivalent or less than an atom of the great sunnah of the prophets to strive in the path of Allah.
These blessed souls are tested to a max I can not begin to comprehend.
'oh my beautiful brothers, you embarked on the most blessed of life's journeys which few are chosen for, Allah decided to accept you inshAllah and thus gave you a struggle that replicates his beloved Yusuf (peace and blessing be upon you). Just a little while and you shall taste just delights that will make your suffering a walk in the park ameen.'

Subhan-Allah

I read bro gabriel's post yesterday but it went over my head, but reading it again now i get it, true bro

[loolitoertego]

Assalamu alaykum

just a little while and you shall taste just delights that will make your suffering a walk in the park ameen.' 61_10.gif

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Inshaa Allah.

Aameen

[Reafnartefs]

Is that the translation or is it a random thought that comes from your mind from time to time!

Lol, very good reply shaykh, had me giggling

[cjOTw7ov]

Eritrean Muslim people have enough scholars of their own who do such a great job. They are from them, speak the same language, have the same culture, the same history etc. They are the best for their people.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Aselamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa barakatuhu,

The Muslims of Eritrea have been oppressed for many decades, first under the rule of Christian Orthodox king Haile Selassie of Ethiopia (also known as Habasha حبشة) then under the communist dictator Mengistu Haile Mariam, now under the Orthodox Marxist President Isaias Afewerki. This dictator of Eritrea has jailed hundreds of islamic scholars and marginalized the Muslim populations that inhabit the lowland areas of Eritrea. Muslim Eritrean youths are forced to join the military at age 18 and stay forcefully conscripted and doing hard labor for military generals until about age 60. Muslim Eritrean women are not allowed to wear hijab in the military and all muslims are forbidden from prayer, punishable by jail & sometimes even death. Majority of the Muslims flee the country because they want to keep their deen, and hundreds of thousands of us are languishing in refugee camps in Eastern Sudan, Ethiopia, and even Egypt.

This terrorist government jails people with impunity because the minority Tigrinya tribe full of Orthodox Christians fear the day the Muslim majority take power, so they support their government with all they can, financially, physically, militarily, etc. The highest echelons of the ruling party of Eritrea (the PFDJ - people's front for democracy and justice) are all Orthodox Tewahedo Christians (similar to the copts of egypt). The PFDJ led by brutal dictator Isaias Afewerki has implemented many abuse and hardship on the muslims of Eritrea, very similar to Bashar Al Assad and the Alawites of Syria. for example:


Eritrean Government Arrests Muslim Teachers, Students
Awate - Gedab News
By Gedab News - Aug 13, 2009
About 30 religious Eritrean Muslims, including teachers and students, were rounded up last week from Asmara by government security officers. They have not been charged with any crimes, and their whereabouts are not known.


Included in the group is Shaikh Abdella, a man in his 70s, who is a graduate of the Al Azhar University in Cairo. He used to provide regular afternoon derse (short Islamic lectures) at the Masjid Khulafa Al Rashidin, (Asmara’s Grand Mosque) after the Asr prayers, until such lessons were banned by the Eritrean government in 2002.

The arrest may be related to an intra-Muslim feud that has been going on in the Mai-chehot neighborhood of Asmara between the traiditional (Suffi) practitioners of Islam and the more strict (Selefi) proponents. Their differences had become so irreconcilable that the Selefists had splintered and founded their own mosque.

A key figure in the co-ordination of the wave of arrests is claimed to be the deputy Mufti, Salem Ibrahim Al-Mukhtar. Ironcially, when Eritrea’s Muslim elders petitioned the government to name Salem Ibrahim as a successor to the current Mufti, Alamin Osman, they had hoped that he would show the wisdom, independence, compassion and great courage that his father, Ibrahim Al-Mukhtar Ahmed Omer (bio), showed as Eritrea’s first Mufti (1939 – 1969), making him one of Eritrea’s most revered Muslims. However, thus far, Salem has been earning a reputation as an enforcer of PFDJ’s unpopular policies.