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Old 07-12-2012, 12:46 AM   #1
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Default WHAT IS The Correct Time to break Fast in Ramadan. ?
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i have received email we are confused now please answer me in detail.we dont want waste our fast.

break the fast immediately after sunset(right after maghrib prayers) otherwise the fast would be makruh and it does not count.?

dark of night after maghrib prayres ?

what is the right time ?


وَكُلُوا وَاشْرَبُوا حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكُمُ الْخَيْطُ الأَبْيَضُ مِنَ الْخَيْطِ الأَسْوَدِ مِنَ الْفَجْرِ ثُمَّ أَتِمُّوا الصِّيَامَ إِلَى اللَّيْل



"Eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct from the black. Then fast to the night." (Qur'an 2:187)





The time to begin fasting in the morning is when light is first seen. The time to stop fasting is when it is "night (layl / ليل)". That is the actual word used in the Qur'an, not 'sunset'. 'Night' refers to the time when the sky becomes such that we would tell someone it is night time.





أَقِمِ الصَّلاةَ لِدُلُوكِ الشَّمْسِ إِلَى غَسَقِ اللَّيْلِ وَقُرْآنَ الْفَجْرِ إِنَّ قُرْآنَ الْفَجْرِ كَانَ مَشْهُودًا



"Establish the prayer from declining of the sun / sunset (dulook al-shams / دلوك الشمس) to the darkness of the night (ليل / layl), and the Qur'an at dawn, surely the Qur'an at dawn is witnessed" (Qur'an 17:78)





The words "dulook al-shams / دلوك الشمس"used in the verse means 'setting of the sun / sunset'. Therefore, there is an expression for maghrib / sunset in the Qur'an. Furthermore, the word "layl / ليل", 'night'



in the Qur'an, there are words for 'sunset' and 'night', and also notice that night is not the same as sunset



The verse of fasting (2:187) uses the word "layl / ليل", 'night' to describe when to finish fasting. If Allah meant sunset, he would have chosen the right word for it. Furthermore, "night / layl" is described as "darkness (غسق / ghasaq)", i.e. "darkness of the night (غسق اليل / ghasaq al-layl)", further emphasising what night is



In another verse, the phrase "maghrib al-shams", is used again to refer specifically to sunset. This time, by the more commonly known word across the world, "maghrib":


حَتَّى إِذَا بَلَغَ مَغْرِبَ الشَّمْسِ وَجَدَهَا تَغْرُبُ فِي عَيْنٍ حَمِئَةٍ وَوَجَدَ عِنْدَهَا قَوْمًا قُلْنَا يَا ذَا الْقَرْنَيْنِ إِمَّا أَنْ تُعَذِّبَ وَإِمَّا أَنْ تَتَّخِذَ فِيهِمْ حُسْنًا



"Then, when he came to the sunset / setting of the sun (maghrib al-shams / مغرب الشمس), he found it setting into a muddy spring. Nearby he found some people and We said, ‘Dhu ’l-Qarnayn, you may choose to punish or show kindness." (Qur'an 18:86)
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Old 07-12-2012, 01:51 AM   #2
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there is a concept of imask. In some masjeds in UK and in UAE they have this in their time table. So stop eating 5 to 10 minutes before fazr starts and wait for a few minutes after maghrib adhan.
http://www.wifaqululama.co.uk/18-deg...or-the-uk.html
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Old 07-12-2012, 11:53 PM   #3
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Assalamu'alaikum

The correct time to break the fast is when the muezin in masjid saying azan maghrib. It's sunset time.

But I understand if Muslims in the west have problem with it because they cannot hear azan. So, if you have timetable from masjid and you doubt your watch is accurate or not, you can delay few minutes. But break your fast before perform salah maghrib, although only with drink water.
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:24 AM   #4
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Fasts should be broken right when maghrib time sets in (i.e. after the sun has completely set). It is better to delay by 3 minutes so that there is increased certainty.

A makrooh fast does not mean an unacceptable fast. It is disliked (i.e. makrooh) to delay breaking the fast but it does not nullify the validity of your fasting.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:22 AM   #5
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salam `alaykum,

There is no reason to be confused. Whoever wrote what you've posted shows clear ignorance of the Qur'an and the language it was revealed in.

The verse says, "thumma atimmu s-siyama ila l-layl." This correctly translates to "then complete the fast up to the night." The question here is, will "the night" be included in the fast or not? The scholars of Arabic have clearly stated in their respective writings that if the thing mentioned after "up to" [ila] is from the genus of what is mentioned before "up to," then what is after is included in what is before it. But if they are not from the same genus, then what is after "up to" is not included in what is before it.

For example, Allah says, "wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows" (fa ghsilu wujuhakum wa aydiyakum ila l-marafiq) [5:6]. Here, the elbows are from the genus of the hands [i.e. arms], so the elbow is included in the the part of the arm that is supposed to be washed.

This is not the case in the verse about completing the fast up to the night, because fasting and night are two completely different things and not from the same genus. Thus, "the night" will not be included in "the fast" and you will break your fast before the night, i.e. at maghrib.

There is no need to get into what night means or giving opinions on how the Qur'an should have been worded after understanding this.

I hope it is clear.
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