[Ervins Dervish]

Does the radioactive particles like Alpha,beta and gamma also constitute the nuclear physics?

Ofcourse.

Alpha particle is the Helium nucleus.
Beta is fast travelling electron.
Gamma rays are electromagnetic rays with high energy. (i think)

[mvjvz]

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[finasteride]

There is Higgs some where in the discussion that I was planning - the discussion that is hinted in above post. The problem is that those things are important in their own right and Higgs is merely one of the inhabitants of very fascinating things there. So the question is whether to continue the discussion in this thread or open a new thread.

In last few hundred years Europe has steered science farther and farther away from religion. Reality is reality and hence it can not be so detached from creators that we can not even recognize our Lord Most High in His signs. So science is ever so close to Gnosis (Ma'arifat - you see I know the correct spelling also). The topic I want to discuss are rather revealing, that is, much more amenable to be discussed as Signs of Allah (SWT) then we usually see in modern physical sciences.

Respected Sir,
Ain't there many failed hypotheses?So, using scientific theories can be a risky task for explaining Signs of Allah? Rather showing the artistic ability of the Creator in the apparent nature of the universe puts us in the safer side.But Allahu A'alam.

[Anykeylo]

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Ofcourse all these physics theories are just the fancies of some deluded scientists and physicists. Some of them are true some of them are false. Its shouldn't be of much concern for a Muslim.

[Kubasarika]

and so what would happen if Allah turned off beta decay?

[VeniHemealm]

and so what would happen if Allah turned off beta decay?

What is beta decay?Some phenomenon?

[viagra_generic]

and so what would happen if Allah turned off beta decay?

Whatever Allah Ta'ala wills it will happen.

These are unnecessary questions that Muslims waste time pondering on. Rather one should ponder on the Akhirah. Not the details of this Dunya.

[Vomephems]

What is beta decay?Some phenomenon?

Basically, its when an electron or a positron is emitted from an atom.

[Tij84ye]

Basically, its when an electron or a positron is emitted from an atom.

That is extremely fundamental in establishing the Fermi Gap in a semiconductor, by way of its involvement in the Fermi Function.

[numinertyuesk]

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...tness-of-Dunya

[HondasMenFox]

Does the radioactive particles like Alpha,beta and gamma also constitute the nuclear physics?

That is the beginning, so to say, of nuclear physics.

Alpha particle consists of two protons and two neutrons and it comes out of certain nuclei (that is plural of nucleus).

Beta is nothing but an electron. Electrons are normally moving out side the nucleus but decay of a neutron inside the nucleus gives you an electron. This is what you see and call Beta rays or particles.

Gamma rays are just high energy photons. At high school level we are taught that when an electron jumps from higer energy level to lower then it gives out a photon. Same things happen inside the nucleus. A nucleus jumps from higher level to lower giving out a photon. Only the energies involved this time are much higher. Remember smaller is the system higher are the energies required to explore it.

[Pharmaciest]

Ofcourse all these physics theories are just the fancies of some deluded scientists and physicists. Some of them are true some of them are false. Its shouldn't be of much concern for a Muslim.

Brother amr, I see what you're trying to say here. But shouldn't we excell in the field of science also? Allah has hidden the secrets of the universe, its our job to find them. In doing this, we can strengthen our Iman and come closer to Allah.


This is from personal experience, but studying science (especially astrophysics/cosmology) always reminds me of the power and majesty of Allah. It humbles me and makes my faith in Him much stronger.

[BliliBoopsy]

Brother amr, I see what you're trying to say here. But shouldn't we excell in the field of science also? Allah has hidden the secrets of the universe, its our job to find them. In doing this, we can strengthen our Iman and come closer to Allah.


This is from personal experience, but studying science (especially astrophysics/cosmology) always reminds me of the power and majesty of Allah. It humbles me and makes my faith in Him much stronger.

And that's what exactly we should be trying to do through science.

[doogiehoussi]

That is extremely fundamental in establishing the Fermi Gap in a semiconductor, by way of its involvement in the Fermi Function.

Lol, dont know what Fermi Gap or Fermi Function is. Mash'Allah, we have some knowledgeable people on this forum.

[Dokescoonse]

And that's what exactly we should be trying to do through science.

Yes, exactly. But some people think of it as a waste of time, saying that we should only focus on deen and shun away science. Granted, I agree, studying deen is more important than studying science, but in the end, both can bring you close to Allah. And besides, science is fascinating!

[Kimeoffessyr]

That is the beginning, so to say, of nuclear physics.

Alpha particle consists of two protons and two neutrons and it comes out of certain nuclei (that is plural of nucleus).

Beta is nothing but an electron. Electrons are normally moving out side the nucleus but decay of a neutron inside the nucleus gives you an electron. This is what you see and call Beta rays or particles.

Gamma rays are just high energy photons. At high school level we are taught that when an electron jumps from higer energy level to lower then it gives out a photon. Same things happen inside the nucleus. A nucleus jumps from higher level to lower giving out a photon. Only the energies involved this time are much higher. Remember smaller is the system higher are the energies required to explore it.

for the info.Tough was to understand about the gamma rays.

Does these transitions through the levels have an effect on the valency formed of an atom?

[DzjwMKo5]

for the info.Tough was to understand about the gamma rays.

Does these transitions through the levels have an effect on the valency formed of an atom?

Alright, so i'll try to explain gamma rays to the best of my knowledge.



Atoms have energy levels. Which you can think of as rings, from innermost to outermost, where electrons orbit the nucleus. When an electron falls from a high energy level to a lower one, it releases a certain amount of energy. This is a gamma ray. Intuitively, the lower an electron drops, the higher the energy will be of the gamma ray released. Also, the opposite of this, called absorption, is when an electron absorbs light energy and moves up a few energy levels. And of course, the number of energy levels it moves up depends on the amount of energy absorbed.

Yes, I think the transitions do affect the valence of the electrons. Because say an electron has a valence of 8. Now, if an electron from that level drops, releasing a gamma ray, the valence would be changed to 7.

Can anyone back me up on this, im pretty sure this is correct.

[CHEAPCIALISFORYOU]

for the info.Tough was to understand about the gamma rays.

Does these transitions through the levels have an effect on the valency formed of an atom?

It is not so difficult actually.
When water jumps from higher levels it rotates water-wheel.
That is how flour was ground in olden days and that is what is happening in hydroelectric power houses.

Valency you are talking about is chemistry. It is about atom. It is about the electrons moving around the nucleus.
Corresponding photons are lower energies than gamma ray photons. Gamma ray photons are very high energy.

I am sure you know that all photons are electromagnetic radiation.

[Marc Spilkintin]

Excellent thread!!!

Thank you professor Maripat!!!

[JEWELMARGY]

Alright, so i'll try to explain gamma rays to the best of my knowledge.



Atoms have energy levels. Which you can think of as rings, from innermost to outermost, where electrons orbit the nucleus. When an electron falls from a high energy level to a lower one, it releases a certain amount of energy. This is a gamma ray. Intuitively, the lower an electron drops, the higher the energy will be of the gamma ray released. Also, the opposite of this, called absorption, is when an electron absorbs light energy and moves up a few energy levels. And of course, the number of energy levels it moves up depends on the amount of energy absorbed.

Nearly correct.

Here is the correction.

There are atomic energy levels. Corresponding photons are either infra red or visible or ultraviolet. They might reach x-rays. All of these are photons and all of these electromagnetic radiation.

Then we try to enter the nucleus. Nucleus has its own energy levels.
Just like atom had.
In atom these were the electrons that were jumping up and down.
Depending upon whether they received energy or released.
In nucleus these are nucleons that jump up or down.
By nucleons we mean the protons and the neutrons.

Yes, I think the transitions do affect the valence of the electrons. Because say an electron has a valence of 8. Now, if an electron from that level drops, releasing a gamma ray, the valence would be changed to 7. Nuclear phenomena is much more powerful than atomic phenomena. Valency is atomic phenomena. we need not talk about that when we are talking about nuclear things. When we are talking about chemistry biology is not on our mind in spite of the fact that the very same atoms and molecules will eventually give biology.