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SusanSazzios 07-07-2012 05:23 AM

Timothy Winter (Abdal Hakim Murad)
 
Its the first time I really sat down to listen to this under-rated daee, little spoken about man. I had watched a few snippets of his videos and thought always that this is a refined English eloquent who probably goes around impressing with language rather than content without ever sitting and listening to much of what he had to say. Today my impression about this great man has changed forever. I dont know what this forum thinks about Sheikh Murad, but the way he handled this interview I have linked below if you listen from beginning to end was the amazing example of Hikmah. He answered almost every most difficult question an intelligent westerner can throw. The questions get harder and harder but he keeps it concise and every answer is invariably irrefutable. Please take time to listen carefully

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a295L...feature=relmfu - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zunqv...hannel&list=UL - Part 2

Total audio time around approximately 30 minutes in total for the interview

BEyng6hj 07-07-2012 06:52 AM

Yes we are blessed to have such a personality.

HornyMolly 07-07-2012 08:37 AM

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Yes we are blessed to have such a personality.
Also he seems to me to be a mercy upon the middle and upper class English people as he explains Islam in a way that they can understand when they may have difficulty engaging with many other speakers due to cultural reasons.

InshaAllah he may be influential in encouraging the development of many more white middle and upper class native Ox-bridge Muslims, people who could really help establish British Islam as something that may be no longer seen as foreign, just like British Jews are seen as a being a British minority not as foreigners.

Sadly today we hear the absurdity of British non-Muslims talking about 3rd generation immigrant Muslims in the UK, when by definition only the first generation were immigrants the later generations that were born here being British not immigrants.

expomeHattePe 07-07-2012 08:41 AM

I think he is a good Scholar,mashaAllah

GutleNus 07-07-2012 04:04 PM

Bismillah
Shaikh Abdul Hakim Murad is often missunderstood by the people. He expresses both opinion in matters where there is no concensus. This made him often the target of criciticism. I remember asking him about death penalty for apostasy. He said he simply expressed views of past scholars. It is a different matter which became the dominant view. The deo scholars do work with him and his venture in trying to pick the best of the class of farigs to impart some understanding of the modern world is commedable. There has been a disconnect between the ulemah and academia since 1980s. This is where the likes of Shaik Abdul Hakim Murad is needed. In UK we don't have many such people!
Allahualam

neictscek 07-07-2012 06:17 PM

Yes he is a deep and broad scholar and I identify with him, though I do not agree with him about Democracy working for Muslims, it is a failed system that has created endless problems in the world... it needs to be dumped forthwith.

imictiorume 07-07-2012 06:42 PM

Thanks for the input everybody. I had got him filed for future read for quite some time. May be time has come. IA.

AlekseyZubkov 07-07-2012 07:00 PM

so now you guys discovered this gem toohttp://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...nnah_smile.gif

inshallah i may be meeting him in next few days for some discussions and input

if allah wills

SarkisPioute 07-07-2012 07:15 PM

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so now you guys discovered this gem toohttp://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...nnah_smile.gif

inshallah i may be meeting him in next few days for some discussions and input

if allah wills
Great! Tell him we have transferred all of our good deeds to him - we are bent on his gheebah.

aparneioninny 07-07-2012 07:39 PM

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Great! Tell him we have transferred all of our good deeds to him - we are bent on his gheebah.
make duas we meet before ramadhan starts,jazakallah

like yourself i also made myself a timeline a few months back

MightyMasd 07-07-2012 10:42 PM

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make duas we meet before ramadhan starts,jazakallah

like yourself i also made myself a timeline a few months back
Ameen.

And you see all great people think alike. What's yours?

RIjdrVs3 07-07-2012 11:00 PM

first roza

foodselfdourileka 07-07-2012 11:04 PM

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first roza

i decrease my time on outside efforts

focus more inner and seclusion

unless allah s.w.t. pulls me

as he wills
That is a bit close!

DF9sLGSU 07-07-2012 11:09 PM

yes but the current position has been nearly 7 years now ,

allah is pulling me certain ways
and blocked me in others


alhamdulillah

FrereeDoulley 07-07-2012 11:14 PM

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Whatever works for you akhi.
I suppose your signature was an indication of jazb - I was all along attributing it to fikr.
I sort of feel strange happiness.
Pray for this sinner.

Roker 07-07-2012 11:16 PM

remember me in duas

i will keep in touch,though less

brother

hictchewisa 07-07-2012 11:18 PM

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Thanks for the input everybody. I had got him filed for future read for quite some time. May be time has come. IA.
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I like his literary writing style. I am sure you would too. I read his Seventy Seven branches of faith.. It is a very good english translation. I made lots of duas for him after reading that book.

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ballerturfali 07-07-2012 11:21 PM

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I like his literary writing style. I am sure you would too. I read his Seventy Seven branches of faith.. It is a very good english translation. I made lots of duas for him after reading that book.

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maulana i mailed you a few days back regarding sth important. did you see it?

Nothatspecial 07-07-2012 11:29 PM

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I like his literary writing style. I am sure you would too. I read his Seventy Seven branches of faith.. It is a very good english translation. I made lots of duas for him after reading that book.

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I'll now express my dilemma.
His Contentions.
These, I suppose, are the Qalbi-Wardat.
Such things are usually tricky.
One has to be rather cautious about such things.
You see these things are heady, that is very enjoyable, but still have to be sorted out from whisperings.
I suppose a novice, and we can never assert our expertize, will be better off leaving them out.
Just for example a contention does not seem to be a Islamic assertion.
But there can be significant insights there.
I'll try to bring in Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA)'s quotation about Mawardid-e-Ilahiya vs Whisperings, later on IA.
That might shed some light on the issue.

Any way your comment has only heightened the excitement.

paypaltoegold1 07-07-2012 11:49 PM

wow, consensus on sunni forum regarding something/someone haha.


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